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What limitations should one expect with Mbox 3 Mini in 2021?
I got a free box 3 mini, no software at all (no PT or drivers etc) I don't even have a CD slot to install anything if it was in the box so I ask what is compatible with it in 2021.
Example what: -Mac OSX system -PT version (and if I can download it?) Very much appreciate any advise on this thanks |
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Re: What limitations should one expect with a box 3 in 2021?
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The latest driver version 1.3.5 (dated Feb 7, 2018) supports macOS 10.13.3 (High Sierra). This MacOS version is compatible up to Protools version 2018.10.
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Re: What limitations should one expect with a box 3 in 2021?
Need or not that is what you buy with the license
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Re: What limitations should one expect with a box 3 in 2021?
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But which Pro Tools HD version comes with mbox 3 or mbox 3 pro?? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Tools https://avid.secure.force.com/pkb/ar...tibility-Chart Last edited by skystudios; 03-06-2021 at 08:48 PM. |
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MacbookPro14,3 - Intel Core i7 3.1 GHz, 16 GB MacOS 13.6.6 running Protools 2024.3.1 Mac Studio M1Max - 64GB MacOS 14.4.1 running Protools 2024.3.1 Last edited by Obsidian Dragon; 03-07-2021 at 10:37 AM. Reason: Corrected from Protools 10 to Protools 9 |
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Re: What limitations should one expect with a box 3 in 2021?
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Why are you even looking at an old past-end of support life Mbox, hopefully not because you think you want to run whatever old Pro Tools LE software that came with it? And hopefully you value your time so that "being free" does not sucker you into wasting time on this old past-EOL stuff. You are almost certainly better off throwing away that junk and getting a modern interface with decent ongoing vendor support. Avid does not play in the consumer market any more. But you can get well supported products starting with things low cost interfaces such as the Focusrite 2i2. And there is a lot of lovely interfaces available from UAD, Apogee, MOTU, RME, ... I can't fathom why you are talking about Pro Tools HD. HD software used to be included with HD hardware bundles starting in the multiple thousands of dollars range. Or you can purchase Pro Tools Ultimate new today for few $k. MBox has nothing to do with HD hardware. Why do you think you need Pro Tools HD or as it's now called Pro Tools Ultimate vs. Pro Tools standard? Typically people who need the extra software features of HD/Ultimate or the Digilink interface compatibility understand all this stuff. If you are just getting started/just doing basic audio as a hobbiest the last thing you likely should worry about is HD or Ultimate. You likely need to go purchase yourself a nice well supported (non-Avid) interface and a Pro Tools standard license subscription. Last edited by Darryl Ramm; 03-06-2021 at 10:21 PM. |
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Why Pro Tools (first of not much that concerns the indie producers and musicians has changed) indie producers and musicians don care about SMPTE and other features linking AVIDS gear or services to the big corp studios with multiple rooms linked via tie lines etc. Most who want pro tools outside the big facilities need it to open sessions and work from any location, make or mix music, compose music, music or sounds fx to picture, or are producers or talent like VO actors or singers that need the higher resolution editing, metering and a few other things Pro Tools offers in no other DAW. Its why many rather buy a UAD Apollo and move on only using Pro Tools if at all for the reasons I mentioned. The hardware story is well known to the public now, same with all companies that are designing products as proprietory which is seen as planned obsolescence in order to push new products at the market value rate yet they have little to no features besides been compatible with Catalina...btw Pro Tools is not fully compatible with either Catalina or BigSur either., All digital avid hardware can work today, example people reported see their old digi002 show up in other DAWS using Catalina.,.I also met people who still use the giant SESSION 8 hardware programming it to push 16 ins and outs., anyway they want in fact, So with that said. I know the mbox3 mini is usb1, Mbox3 is 2.0 and Mbox3 pro is firewire, I say Mbox usb 2 and Mbox3 FW can do as well as a portable SSL2+ I know USB drivers for Catalina are available even though Avid refuses to update them. Im guessing when I get the mbox3 it will work in Catalina with Pro Tools 12, but I like to see if I can buy someone's Pro Tools HD or 10. I don't need the post production options, maybe nice to have some video editing but im only concerned with producing music. Last edited by skystudios; 03-07-2021 at 02:15 AM. |
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Re: What limitations should one expect with a box 3 in 2021?
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The lowest tier is "Protools First," which is really a promotional product to let folks try it out to see if Protools is right for them. The middle tier is "Protools," which is referred to as "Vanilla" here. It has most of the music production features for home recordist and hobbyist. (I'm thinking this is probably right for you.) The highest tier is "Protools Ultimate," which was previously called "Protools HD." It included more features geared for professional studios and post production. At one time it was required to have AVID hardware with a Native interface or Accel DSP cards and I/O etc. to be used. All three tiers since version 12 now use the same version numbering system with the year and month of the release date. For example, the latest version available now is 2020.12 (released in December 2020). Therefore you should be very specific what product you are interesting in buying. For example: Protools HD version 12 or Protools Ultimate version 2020.5 or Protools version 10 or Protools version 2020.12. One more point. Protools LE used the Avid interface (like your Mbox 3) as the copy protection method to ensure you owned the product and Protools LE would not work without the interface connected. Since Protools 9 however, the copy protection method changed to use an Ilok (USB key). Since you may use any compatible interface, you must have the Ilok dongle connected to a USB port for Protools to work. More recent versions allow that Ilok copy protection to reside in the cloud via an Internet connection but older version do not.
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Re: What limitations should one expect with a box 3 in 2021?
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You are shotgunning random questions all across DUC. Asking beginner level questions interspersed with stuff from some old experience, like above. You ask beginner questions and experienced folks try to help you. We all know about Avid and Design and don’t need history lessons. You are just all over the place. If you have lots of experience with Pro Tools and really want Pro Tools 10 HD you could get that system put together quickly, why are you on here talking about Mbox? Much of your confusion would go away if you just went to Sweetwater or similar and purchased an interface and Pro Tools standard subscription, talking to a sales rep to help you would be a good idea. Last edited by Darryl Ramm; 03-07-2021 at 12:07 PM. |
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Re: What limitations should one expect with Mbox 3 Mini in 2021?
MBox 3 range shipped with PT LE 8. None of those interfaces ever shipped with HD. It was only recently that HD/Ultimate software was allowed to run natively without the use of HD hardware.
PT 9 is when AVID decoupled the hardware/software link allowing use of any Core Audio/ASIO complaint hardware. You will need those drivers in order to use the MBox on any current version of PT. The OS will be the obstacle in utilising the interface. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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