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Multiple Tap Delays?
Hey guys,
Is it possible to have two different "events" controlling tap times for two different plugins? For example, can I have 'F8' control the universal tempo, and 'F7' control the tap tempo for one specific plugin? That would let me set the DigiRack delays to the universal tempo, and use the tap function built into my Massey TD5 as a separate tempo without having to pull up the plugin each time. Thanks in advance. |
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Re: Multiple Tap Delays?
Unfortunately no...but you can always use Snapshots to change the attributes of anything in the plug-in rack.
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Re: Multiple Tap Delays?
Avid needs to add this feature as only one tap for all delays is a limitation.
Snapshots are cool for some things, but many of us FOH guys still wish to do things on-the-fly especially when refining things live.
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Re: Multiple Tap Delays?
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If you need a beat repeat not related to the tempo of the song, all you would need to do is unlink that delay unit from the tap tempo and set it manually. |
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Re: Multiple Tap Delays?
Just curious, what are you guys doing that uses multiple tempos at the same time?
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Re: Multiple Tap Delays?
Listen to some Lee Perry and you'll get some ideas...:)
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Re: Multiple Tap Delays?
You guys who use the tap button to hit the delay TIME you want, you should learn to tap the tempo of the music instead. Then understand 1/4 notes, 1/8 notes 1/16 notes, dotted notes and tripet notes etc.
There really is no situation where you would need two tempo settings at the same time. Even with complex music where different people are in different time signatures and seem to be playing against each other, there will be a common pulse and any delay time can be derived. And I really doubt this kind of music is going to have delays going on. |
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Re: Multiple Tap Delays?
+1 for James.
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Re: Multiple Tap Delays?
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Also keep in mind many great players can play in any time feel, but they can't chart it, just like the case where an engineer can tap out the delay they want, but it doesn't mean they have time to determine if it is a dotted 8th or a 1/4 Triplet and adjust the settings accordingly or program a snapshot for next time they feel it should happen. After all, this is live sound, which is often on-the-fly and is not to be confused with pre-conceived sound. I do agree your point has much merit in the latter but many of us don't often work in that realm, or desire more freedom to play around without rigid constraints. Basically it feels like a step backward to many of us. There are many other areas the D-Show product could be improved to allow more freedom and ease of operation, but that is a topic for a different thread and a different day.
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Re: Multiple Tap Delays?
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I have not used the pm5d, but on the m7 and ls9 i have set up 4 delays with one tap tempo button to control them all which seems better to me than having to tap for each. Quote:
I have learnt more about music from talking to the guys on stage in between shows and in the bar etc than i did in the 10+ years at school. Quote:
If i knew i had to do a bunch of delay throws and stuff during a show, maybe i could take 4 aux sends, and label them 1/16, 1/8, 1/4T, 1/4 or something. Then i can have one tap button to set the time for all these in one go at any time i like, also the feedback is all on zero because you can just send back to the same aux on the return path. And if you really want to get creative then you can send from the returns to different delay lines and eq the returns etc. With all this i would find having four tap buttons more of a problem! |
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