Menu item naming: "Delete" vs "Delete..."

[kiddipalli]

Hi all,

Just wanted to post a strange bug and wonder if anyone can replicate.

I use custom keyboard shortcuts a lot in PT on MacOS and I made a shortcut for track delete today.

I´m working on several sessions (all created on the same machine and system on the same day) While switching between sessions I noticed that my new shortcut wouldn´t work in all of them. When I went into Menu>Track I saw that PT sometimes names the menu command "Delete" and other times it´s named "Delete...". I´ve never seen this before as I´ve not been paying much attention to it until now.

For those who don´t know, creating a custom shortcut in MacOS requires you to write out the menu command exactly as it is in the software so this is an inconveniance (although a minor one)

I´m using PT 2021.3.0 on Mac OS 10.14.6

[daeron80]

Wow...

[Prabha]

Lucky you! at least you can create shortcut macros in OS for PT! The windows version of PT is totally crippled in this regard.

(sorry for the rant)

[Marsdy]

Originally Posted by kiddipalli

Hi all,

Just wanted to post a strange bug and wonder if anyone can replicate.

I use custom keyboard shortcuts a lot in PT on MacOS and I made a shortcut for track delete today.

I´m working on several sessions (all created on the same machine and system on the same day) While switching between sessions I noticed that my new shortcut wouldn´t work in all of them. When I went into Menu>Track I saw that PT sometimes names the menu command "Delete" and other times it´s named "Delete...". I´ve never seen this before as I´ve not been paying much attention to it until now.

For those who don´t know, creating a custom shortcut in MacOS requires you to write out the menu command exactly as it is in the software so this is an inconveniance (although a minor one)

I´m using PT 2021.3.0 on Mac OS 10.14.6

I’d like to know what those three dots mean. Quite a few menu items have them, not just delete.

[kiddipalli]

I think I´ve figured it out...

If said command will be followed by a prompt window, it will show the three dots after.

So if the delete function will delete the track without question = no dots
If the delete function is going to give me options before deletion = Three dots

[its2loud]

Originally Posted by kiddipalli

I think I´ve figured it out...

If said command will be followed by a prompt window, it will show the three dots after.

So if the delete function will delete the track without question = no dots
If the delete function is going to give me options before deletion = Three dots

I came across this phenomenon when I was doing the same thing. The ellipsis occurs when there is audio or midi on the track. I believe I just made two keyboard shortcuts for both with and without the ellipsis and this fixed the issue.

[kiddipalli]

Originally Posted by its2loud

I came across this phenomenon when I was doing the same thing. The ellipsis occurs when there is audio or midi on the track. I believe I just made two keyboard shortcuts for both with and without the ellipsis and this fixed the issue.

Yeah, I did just that and it works great!

Thanks for the advice.

[midnightrambler]

Yes I've done the same thing. There was a time when I went mad for making shortcuts this way but I found myself getting tripped up when moving rigs or updating OS so I weaned myself off it. Would still love an actual built-in shortcut for "Show/Hide Color Palette"...

[Sonopolis]

Originally Posted by kiddipalli

I think I´ve figured it out...

If said command will be followed by a prompt window, it will show the three dots after.

So if the delete function will delete the track without question = no dots
If the delete function is going to give me options before deletion = Three dots

This actually is the Apple UI design philosophy. Try the -menu, now hit the ALT key. The dots disappear. Wouldn't that be nice for some dialogues?

[Marsdy]

Originally Posted by kiddipalli

I think I´ve figured it out...

If said command will be followed by a prompt window, it will show the three dots after.

So if the delete function will delete the track without question = no dots
If the delete function is going to give me options before deletion = Three dots

That makes sense, good call! The dots appear after MIDI Editor for example which obviously takes you to a new window.