2021.12 | Release Notes

[Dizzi45Z]

Originally Posted by gives

Still running Catalina and have no issues, so no reason to update either on this one. I was told months ago by Jeff Komar to just stay where I am for what I am doing. Glad I did, but I know others do not have that option.

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Smart. I upgraded to Big Sur and I have completely regretted it ever since. Pro Tools is still not ready for Big Sur in my opinion. My Catalina version of Pro Tools was so much smoother and more stable.

[Dizzi45Z]

Originally Posted by cqd

I kinda feel ripped off by my year this time..

I feel somewhat ripped off from this last year too. I have dealt with so many frustrating bugs with Big Sur and 2021.6 forward (so half the year). 2021.10 basically sent me on a week of troubleshooting to try to fix the bad driver that was released with it. This is the first time I have ever used Avid support to try to help me with the issue. They completely left me stranded and finally replied to my urgent questions 2 weeks later after I had already sent them the solutions I had discovered myself after 15+ hours of trouble shooting.

The Hybrid Engine was a neat feature to see added. So I am grateful for their work in that area. I was just hoping for so many more bug fixes in this update. Pro Tools is currently the buggiest it has ever been when running in Big Sur.

[Rectifried]

Catalina and 21.10 is ok ( for pt)
Wasted too much time on Big Sur.. months
Not great in 1000 small ways

[Obsidian Dragon]

Originally Posted by Dizzi45Z

Pro Tools is currently the buggiest it has ever been when running in Big Sur.

Strange that my experiences with Big Sur are completely different. Protools has been running great on Big Sur for me. However, I realize that different people's configuration, plugins, and workflows may yield different results, so I acknowledge your frustration with Protools on Big Sur. I know the transition to Apple Silicon will be long and difficult but I'm looking forward to getting there. Apple will always make changes in the name of progress and Avid will always need to catch up - albeit ever slowly and with incompatibility issues. If history has taught us anything, it is that Apple often moves again before Avid manages to catch up, therefore repeating the cycle. It is the nature of the beast and the price we pay to use Protools, else we'd be using Logic to avoid or minimize this drama.

[samtrino]

I understand some disappointment for lack of new features, but I also appreciate the stability improvements in 2021.12 - many plugins that were crashing PT (upon start) are now working fine on Monterey...

[tonwurm]

Originally Posted by LukeHoward

This is pretty crude but, on macOS you can use the following in Terminal to enumerate plugin versions:

find "/Library/Application Support/Avid/Audio/Plug-Ins" -name Info.plist -print -exec /usr/libexec/PlistBuddy -c "Print CFBundleShortVersionString" "{}" \;

For better or worse, it also captures the version of PACE (iLok) against which the plugin was built, which may be useful with the current issue. I'll leave it to someone else to tabulate and prettify the output

thanks !

[noah330]

I'm going to skip this release for a while. I'm running an M1 Mini and it's fine for now. Once the new OS is supported I'll do an upgrade. Not worth the risk for me.

[Eric Lambert]

Originally Posted by Obsidian Dragon

Strange that my experiences with Big Sur are completely different. Protools has been running great on Big Sur for me.

Same here. Remaining issues are attributable to PT, not the OS.

[off the wall]

Originally Posted by Eric Lambert

Same here. Remaining issues are attributable to PT, not the OS.

Another vote for Big Sur. It has been the most stable OS for PT in quite some time.

[Dizzi45Z]

Originally Posted by Obsidian Dragon

Strange that my experiences with Big Sur are completely different. Protools has been running great on Big Sur for me.

Originally Posted by off the wall

Another vote for Big Sur. It has been the most stable OS for PT in quite some time.

Originally Posted by Eric Lambert

Same here. Remaining issues are attributable to PT, not the OS.

This really surprises me. You guys don't get the VCA graphic bug and other glitchy graphic things from time to time?

Virtual Instruments will randomly stop playing for me including randomly dropping out when bouncing projects (started in 2021.10).

Now version 2021.12 will crash when I try to use clip EFX EQ on clips.

Then there are far more crashes in Big Sur than there were in Catalina. Pro Tools in Catalina would go a day or two without a single crash. Pro Tools in Big Sur crashes at least 4-5 a day with just random things. Many times mouse clicks hang on me like Pro Tools doesn't register the mouse release. Delay compensation gets off with plugins with large amounts of latency even when it doesn't max out.

I'm on a Mac Pro 2019 with 160 GB of RAM and 3.2 16 Core processor. While I run on low buffer settings, I still seem to have plenty of power left in the computer, so I don't think these things are happening because of the computer maxing out.