The future remains in the future

[6X 2]

(I know this should be in the Digistudio forum, but it's more of a conceptual discussion, so I post it here)

RocketNetworks is discontinuing its services, thus ending Digistudio.

What this means is that, depressingly, the world has become a bit bigger again, distances are still distances, FedEx doesn't necessarily deliver, ISDN is still compressed and FTP still occasionally drops out and has a cup of tea.

I'm a firm believer that one day, eventually, this technology will take off and carry on with the revolution Rocket started. But for the time being, it's Royal Mail, FedEx, FTP or ISDN, none of which match Rocket's features (except ISDN for being almost real-time).

What is the future of online collaboration? This stuff looked all so promising and the next moment it's just not there anymore.

Are we really not ready for it yet? It's bloody 2003!

It's disturbing.

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[DesertDude]

"it" was too expensive. "it" was too complicated. "it" was destined to fail. You can actually mail with FedEx and get it the same day. How fast is that?
The whole idea behind being it different time spaces and being together through wire is the failure part. This needs to happen through molecular changes, otherwise its just piggybacking on old technology. Besides, aren't there bigger issues to be sorted out right now?


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[aziel]

I totally agree...too expensive, even for "us" the people that live outside the US...

I think that the market with major grow like is the non-TDM and non-HD like 001, 002 and Mbox weren´t include in the DIGISTUDIO, so, was a waste of effort if not gonna offer the service to the major growing share, it doesn´t matter if they (WE) are a pro´s or not, if they need the service so they use it...

I think if you have more activities in your service you can low the prices...think about it...

it´s too dificult to me explain a Marketing theory in english...sorry [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[froyo]

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What is the future of online collaboration? This stuff looked all so promising and the next moment it's just not there anymore.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hello. Doesn't that sound familiar? Where have we heard that before? Ohh yeahh! When the Internet bubble burst and it caused a major recession which we are still trying to crawl out of. As it turns out, for now, about the only thing that is profitable on the net is porn and maybe Amazon. Maybe Amazon, but last I heard Amazon wasn't showing that big a profit. Other than that most Internet only businesses tend to fail. It's possible in the future if there is some affordable big wide pipe something like Digistudio may work, but at least not for the foreseeable future.

[originalrmonday]

Hello all,

I read this post this morning and maybe this is going off on a tangent but I have thought about it often and wonder what other people think. As far as ISDN, or Rocket or FedEx same day, who cares? My question is what did people do in 1975? If you weren't done with the project on time, the people just didn't get it on time. But I would think part of the planning of the project took into account the fact that it took 2, 3, or 4 days to go from New York to LA or whatever, unless you had the budget to have someone get on a plane that day and fly it out there. I have been working for a well-known film composer for almost 4 years now and it amazes me how much things are cut so close that if it wasn't for all this technology it seems like the whole industry would never be on time, whereas with just a little pre-planning or starting a couple days (or minutes)earlier there would seem to be a huge overall reduction in stress level. Maybe it's just because I'm still a little young (26), but I just feel like the technology is starting to take control of us and makes us forget that the reason we started doing this is because we love music and wanted to have a job that would be basically fun and interesting rather then sitting in an office all day filing insurance claims. And don't think that I'm putting down technology, because I love all the new things people come up with to be creative and I am 100% always on time and deliver a correct final product. I just wonder if maybe we are talking ourselves a little too seriously at times? As if delivering the latest Creed album or Avril Autotune Lavigne record on time is going to change the future. On a positive note, I set out to make a living as an audio engineer and so far I have accomplished that, and I love reading this forum. So let me know if I am alone in this or not. I just don't want to end up as the bitter 43 year old sound engineer talking about how much I wish I would have become a plumber when I grow up. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

rmonday

[6X 2]

Yeah, I suppose its failure is due to the cost and bandwidth issues. + the last notion about the rise and fall of the internet bubble is totally true, the world just isn't ready for it.

As an idea though, DesertDude, I think being in a different space and/or time and being connected by wire is pretty good... Telephones are the most basic example of this - though it's not in use for music production. Video conferencing is another widely used application of the same sort of idea.

What many people complain about with ISDN (whose success in itself is a proof that people do want to work from within a distance) is the synchronity... Having to be somewhere at a receiving end in the middle of the night when someone in a different time zone is sending you something...

Though as a big downside, I have to say that for making music, it can be alienating not to be able to see or talk to your colleague in real time. They had chat, but chat isn't speech and body language, which is an important factor when you're trying to exchange musical ideas. A black-and-grey screen just doesn't do the trick...

Aziel: Digistudio features were implemented in Pro Tools LE 5.2.

Just trying to create discussion about it...

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[aziel]

Aziel: Digistudio features were implemented in Pro Tools LE 5.2.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">So...my theory it´s just crap!!! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

but, i think that they could think about it before... [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

[6X 2]

It does make sense in a way, cause the low-end users are not likely to have broadband internet, so they'd most probably be put off by waiting for big files for ever and ever and ever... Mind you, there was a 'draft version' compression option as well.

About the notion of lateness, the attitude these days seems to be that everything has to be on time, cause time is money and money is... Well, important to say the least... [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img] However you get the job done on time doesn't matter, but TIMING is everything. Imagine mixing a christmas album and falling behind schedule so that it's out on boxing day?

There is an old joke about timing that I last read in a Phil Spector interview not that long ago and there also is a drummer variation of it, but I'm not going to tell either of them by writing, it spoils the fun.

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[roberts]

Cost is always a factor. Digistudio prices are expensive.
It's so easy to FTP without the need of a server. Digistudio is a good idea but I think it's poorly implimented. There should be no reason why it can't use some type of protocol for peer to peer bypassing the use of an expensive UNIX server. You can get a 1 GB idisk account for 30.00 per month (easy to use and cross platform) ISP prices are high in parts of the world. Telstra in Australia charges $180.00 Per GB of transfer which is helping to keep Australian business "Down Under"

[roberts]

Cost is always a factor. Digistudio prices are expensive.
It's so easy to FTP without the need of a server. Digistudio is a good idea but I think it's poorly implimented. There should be no reason why it can't use some type of protocol for peer to peer bypassing the use of an expensive UNIX server. You can get a 1 GB idisk account for 30.00 per month (easy to use and cross platform) ISP prices are high in parts of the world. Telstra in Australia charges $180.00 Per GB of transfer which is helping to keep Australian business "Down Under"