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Using Reaper to Host VST VI's in Pro Tools
As always with the digital world, there's a dozen ways to do anything. Here's how I use Reaper to host my VST virtual instruments from within a PT instrument track. Hope it helps any of you wanting to do this.
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Re: Using Reaper to Host VST VI's in Pro Tools
Interesting! I've been doing almost the exact same thing for about two years now. So far, it's been working well.
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Re: Using Reaper to Host VST VI's in Pro Tools
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Obviously you can still host VST based VI's in reaper as well as the other formats that are not yet AAX-x64
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Re: Using Reaper to Host VST VI's in Pro Tools
Hosting VI's in REAPER has been a go-to solution for a ton of us for almost 6+ years now since the PT 7 era. A few session templates could probably still be found in the old LE forum somewhere and will still work. The brilliant devs at Cockos were great to work with on this during their own betas. I think I drove schwa nuts a few times with my nit picking to get it going right in PT. They kept the spirits up with some humorous names of their beta builds that included Pro Tools though.
It's hard to believe many of us have been using the ReWire solution in PT for over 11 years now. Avid had a competing solution called DirectConnect back in the day. The 3rd party VI developers didn't adopt this at all. I recall only about 3 who jumped aboard. We then petitioned here on the forum, more like rioted actually , for ReWire support. This was before there was a clause in the forum terms of use that prohibited petitions and polls. We finally got our ReWire support in PT and I knew this would be our back door to getting VSTi's going in Pro Tools. From there I approached Angus at FXpansion, and a few others, to develop a VSTi to ReWire adaptor. Creating bridges like this from different plug-in formats was pretty much his specialty and only product back then. He emailed me back 2 days later and had the first working VST to ReWire Adaptor up and running. We finally got our VSTi hosting in PT. DirectConnect eventually morphed into HTDM and other parts of PT, and the VST to ReWire Adaptor morphed into the VST to RTAS Adaptor. The rest as we say is history. Thought I'd throw in a bit of PT history trivia here for my first post of the day. Shane
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Pro Tools Power User Editing Give your plug-ins a facelift...and skin 'em! __________________ "Music should be performed by the musician, not by the engineer." Michael Wagener 25th July 2005, 02:59 PM __________________ Pro Tools|HD Native 9.0.1 | Pro Tools|HDX 10.2 | Studio One | REAPER 4.22 | HD OMNI | HoboMac Pro 2.26Ghz Quad-Core | W7 Ultimate 64-bit |
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Re: Using Reaper to Host VST VI's in Pro Tools
Great backstory Shan
I don't use it but i expect i will soon. Does it save the load on PT at all ? Say, rewiring Kontakt as opposed to using it rtas… AAX Or any other VSTi for that matter. Thanks DonaldM for the link |
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Re: Using Reaper to Host VST VI's in Pro Tools
Awesome video DonaldM. It looks like the VI hosts are here to stay.
+1. Really great to have guys like Shan in the PT community. Using VEP5 now but I learned about Reaper ReWire, and Vanilla Disc Cache from him, both tremendously enhancing my Vanilla workflow. Shan, if you are ever in Atlanta, all you can eat vanilla ice cream cones on me. |
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Re: Using Reaper to Host VST VI's in Pro Tools
Thanks, Spenner! Yeah, I agree. Like everyone else I have plenty of AAX plugs, but there are some nice ones out there that aren't ever going to be AAX and its great to be able to still use them via Rewire, or hosted in something like VEPro or the Blue Cat Audio MB-7. I just wish the Rewire avenue was a 2-way street. I've never really understood why it isn't. I'd love to be able to just send an audio signal from any source in PT TO the Rewire host (Reaper, say), add whatever processing I want there, just like sending to an Aux bus, and then send it back via Rewire to the main mix. I guess there might be latency issues, but I'm not sure why, since its all "in the box" anyway. How different would it be from Send/Return on an Aux bus? Does anyone know the technical reasons why Rewire can only go From the host to PT but the other way?
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Re: Using Reaper to Host VST VI's in Pro Tools
I felt like an old DUC telling that one. Hey you APAChickens, get off my damn lawn!!
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Pro Tools Power User Editing Give your plug-ins a facelift...and skin 'em! __________________ "Music should be performed by the musician, not by the engineer." Michael Wagener 25th July 2005, 02:59 PM __________________ Pro Tools|HD Native 9.0.1 | Pro Tools|HDX 10.2 | Studio One | REAPER 4.22 | HD OMNI | HoboMac Pro 2.26Ghz Quad-Core | W7 Ultimate 64-bit |
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Re: Using Reaper to Host VST VI's in Pro Tools
So was the main use for vst instruments (that weren't RTAS) or to run lighter loads in PT?
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Re: Using Reaper to Host VST VI's in Pro Tools
As for myself, I start with AAX/RTAS as my first step if they're available. In the past I noticed many NI VI's operated better when hosted compared to being instantiated as native RTAS in PT.
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Pro Tools Power User Editing Give your plug-ins a facelift...and skin 'em! __________________ "Music should be performed by the musician, not by the engineer." Michael Wagener 25th July 2005, 02:59 PM __________________ Pro Tools|HD Native 9.0.1 | Pro Tools|HDX 10.2 | Studio One | REAPER 4.22 | HD OMNI | HoboMac Pro 2.26Ghz Quad-Core | W7 Ultimate 64-bit |
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