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Re: 3 Pro Tools issues making me do (& redo) what should be the simplest tasks of any
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Re: 3 Pro Tools issues making me do (& redo) what should be the simplest tasks of any
The best way to approach this is to share a simple PT project per issue with 1 midi track with some notes and describe what you do, what you expect to happen and what happens - that’s the core of QA.
Other people can try to reproduce that exact thing and maybe some light will be shed on this. Also Avid finding the thread have a readymade case to add an issue for if it’s confirmed. A lot of things that seem like bugs are due to the myriad settings of the app as has been alluded to. |
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Re: 3 Pro Tools issues making me do (& redo) what should be the simplest tasks of any
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I'm hoping these issues are exclusive to this session. I've read that it only happens at certain tempos. I started a new session last night and tried to recreate the problem at different tempos and was not yet able to. Which is positive but frustrating that things didn't work that easy in my full session. If the issue persists in any new sessions, I'm simply going to commit established midi patterns to audio before making any changes to the arrangement. Or readjust any alterations at the end of the project once over. I'm going to stick with Pro Tools and the song no matter how long it takes to carry the vision out. Thanks to everyone for their input and advice. Last edited by take77; 05-09-2021 at 03:11 AM. |
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Re: 3 Pro Tools issues making me do (& redo) what should be the simplest tasks of any
Gosh, this type of problem was reported numerous times on IdeaScale back when Avid was using that platform. It goes back at least to PT 11. If Avid still needs help identifying the issue, we're doomed.
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Re: 3 Pro Tools issues making me do (& redo) what should be the simplest tasks of any
Yeah it's totally confirmed in my sessions. PT couldn't even duplicate a 4 bar drum loop at 120BPM accurately today.
When I selected the clip it read 4 bars in the green bar length indicator. Then when I hit Ctrl + D to duplicate it on the timeline the copied clip read 4 bars + 32 samples longer. That's why the notes are shifted and the first notes of the next clip disappear. It happens randomly. I'll post a screen next time it happens I just didn't have time today.
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Re: 3 Pro Tools issues making me do (& redo) what should be the simplest tasks of any
Just Google "pro tools sample rounding error" and read the top hits. There's an article about it in Avid's own knowledge base from...
wait for it... 2012. Yes, 2012. 9 years they've known about this issue and haven't yet fixed it.
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Re: 3 Pro Tools issues making me do (& redo) what should be the simplest tasks of any
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tg
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Re: 3 Pro Tools issues making me do (& redo) what should be the simplest tasks of any
Sample rounding issue is based on an actual math problem between samples and ticks. It's easily worked around by using an offset when looping or copy pasting regions. The other problem the OP mentions (notes shifted inside of the copy paste region) I have NEVER encountered after thousands of hours using PT MIDI.
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Re: 3 Pro Tools issues making me do (& redo) what should be the simplest tasks of any
A math problem that has been solved by every other MIDI sequencer maker on earth. Yes, I realize that it requires a tradeoff of some kind. But everyone else has done it in a way that works transparently for all musical purposes. Avid seem to think that math is more important than the usability of their product.
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David J. Finnamore PT 2023.12 Ultimate | Clarett+ 8Pre | macOS 13.6.3 on a MacBook Pro M1 Max PT 2023.12 | Saffire Pro 40 | Win10 latest, HP Z440 64GB Last edited by daeron80; 05-13-2021 at 08:35 AM. |
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Re: 3 Pro Tools issues making me do (& redo) what should be the simplest tasks of any
This is a LONG standing completely ignored by Avid bug that has absolutely frustrated the hell out of me since PT12!!
https://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=404739 https://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=410940 https://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=409558 https://www.facebook.com/groups/1720...00721126908470 And here more users on the Facebook Pro Tools Advanced Forum complaining of this very issue. Good thing here though is that he says that he raised a ticket with Avid Tech Support like so many of us have already done, but the difference is they have responded with this: Entered on: 4/16/2021 8:10 AM Entered by: Narciso Carlos Hello Mike, This issue is related and logged under "PT-254223 (Important Escalation) MIDI clips/notes are shifting positions and lengths when duplicated in the timeline" and the fix for this bug will be included and is now scheduled in the following release, barring any other unforeseen delays. From this point on, we will need to leave it up to Engineering. If Engineering requests more info from your end I'll be sure to let you know. It is our general procedure to provide a defect number then close the case. Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns before we do so. Thank you for your patience regarding this. For new case inquiries, you can create a new case at: http://avid.force.com/Support/RegistrationCaseCreation This the first I've known that Avid have not only acknowledged the bug but say a fix is imminent.......wow....finally! Still not holding my breath though.
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