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Old 01-20-2023, 10:05 AM
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Don't know. V5 works okay on Silicon, though I've found it a little slow.
Yes, works great here as well via Rosetta. SM has always had some lag, especially when your database reaches higher numbers.
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Old 01-20-2023, 10:09 AM
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Who remembers this supercomputer cpu called G5 from +20 year ago that was manufactured with 130nm process? Now we are going from 5 to 3... for god's sake, visible light is 380 to 700 nanometers. We need computers to build computers.
I do, and I remember reading Richard Feynman's "The Pleasure of Finding Things Out" and his theories of where supercomputers would be heading and it feels like the future is here. However, Moore's Law has been broken and I'm going to miss the excitement of a truly revolutionary design every few years.

And I'll just add that this announcement is falling pretty flat to me. It's technically faster but when I see an M1 jump to an M2 I'm accustomed to more of a leap in specs along with the name.
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I have M1 (basic) and M2 (basic) here and basically only difference is max memory from 16 to 24 gigabytes. It is the pro/max/ultra that makes the big difference, compared to baseline, not the M version number.
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Im all about the price/size/performance.... AND 3 MONITORS.....
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the 3 monitors is the kicker , for me......but sigh now i gotta go buy a whole bunch of other sh+t......
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the 3 monitors is the kicker , for me......but sigh now i gotta go buy a whole bunch of other sh+t......
Here I thought I was high tech with 2 screens "I may be old but at least I am slow" ---- beam me up captain

Seriously does sh+t include displays ? Have you looked at the ASUS Pro Art series ?
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Old 01-20-2023, 01:35 PM
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However, Moore's Law has been broken and I'm going to miss the excitement of a truly revolutionary design every few years.

And I'll just add that this announcement is falling pretty flat to me. It's technically faster but when I see an M1 jump to an M2 I'm accustomed to more of a leap in specs along with the name.
Agree on the M1 to M2 leap but I am amazed at the power cut that came with the M processor leaps. I'm typing on a 2019 4 core i7 mac book where any audio work in PT gets the fan going bananas. The fact that were talking about a dozen or less silicon atoms in width is mind blowing as well. Who knows what tech changes will come. I wonder how much these chips could do if heat wasn't an issue but perhaps the smaller the more fragile.

At least for music production it seems we are covered (knock on wood, famous last words etc.)

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There are lies, damned lies, and semiconductor marketing process nodes width claims.

While very impressive technology, there are no structures on these chips with 5nm sizes, the smallest structural items on chip are in the 20-30nm range. Which with a silicon crystal nearest neighbor distances of ~.23nm gives a crude estimate of 20/.23 ~90 silicon atoms wide for the smallest structure.
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Damn. Fooled by marketing hype again.

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Im all about the price/size/performance.... AND 3 MONITORS.....
Yep 3 monitors. 2 Just doesn't cut it anymore. And then if you add some iPads, you got some small monitors for certain things.
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