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Re: Avid, why can we still not disable software monitoring (for ALL outputs)?
Can someone explain how this "new feature" even works?
I'm fine with monitoring through software, but what I'd like to happen is to be able to hear both the audio on the track leading up to the punch and your live mic so that you can sing along and actually hear yourself instead of relying on vibrations of your voice in your skull as you lead up to a punch... If we could just entirely disable input monitoring for a given track I think this would be solved by having an open aux input track "always on" or an audio track not record armed with input monitoring turned on (green I with CPTK). I do have the CPTK2 so the only workaround I could figure is sort of as I suggest above but when the punch comes on the track that does not have input monitoring turned on but is still record armed then you get double input and it's extra loud. My workaround for that is to turn down the volumes a bit but it's all workarounds... am I missing something? Thanks, -Jon |
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Re: Avid, why can we still not disable software monitoring (for ALL outputs)?
Sorry for the quick hijack, 19 frets pm me if you want, just noticed you are in rva...
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Re: Avid, why can we still not disable software monitoring (for ALL outputs)?
I asked Max G about this at AES - he said they've added an option to turn software monitoring off! It also states that they did it on the ideascale :
http://protools.ideascale.com/a/dtd/...OFF/27200-3779 |
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Re: Avid, why can we still not disable software monitoring (for ALL outputs)?
They did do it. Just not the way some would prefer.
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Re: Avid, why can we still not disable software monitoring (for ALL outputs)?
how has it been implemented?
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Re: Avid, why can we still not disable software monitoring (for ALL outputs)?
I'm curious how to turn it on and how it works or "how it was implemented" as well... the manual isn't particularly helpful in this regard unless I'm searching for the wrong thing... can someone in the know write up a quick blog post or something?!? Thanks!
-Jon |
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Re: Avid, why can we still not disable software monitoring (for ALL outputs)?
I bought PT 9 as soon as it came out but after learning it lacks software monitoring I never bothered installing it. I should have sold my copy while it was still worth something but I was hoping the would fix this huge oversight with a patch.
I'm still trying to understand if PT 10 has software monitoring. Can I use total mix? Do I have to have CPTK to use it?
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Re: Avid, why can we still not disable software monitoring (for ALL outputs)?
I found the description in the PDF manual to be pretty clear, but I'll try to explain it anyway.
PT9 and PT10 both have software monitoring always active - unlike pretty much all other DAWs where you can activate and deactivate it with a click. The problem with this is that people who use Interfaces with built-in monitor mixers and effects (DSP-based) as well as people who use a mixing console and analogue effects for the monitor mix can not use PT for tracking the way they would use other DAWs. The reason is obvious: You get the nearly latency free monitor mix from i.e. TotalMixFX or you console, and then you get the software monitor mix from ProTools which has a higher latency (depending on your buffer size). So you get ugly phase issues (comb filter effects) and besides that the musician will be confused to which signal he should play to. The simple solution would be to turn off the software monitoring. This can be done in every single DAW on the market ... except for ProTools. While in PT9 you were completely screwed, with PT10 they allow you to switch the software monitoring off - but only for the Outputs 1 and 2! This is ridiculous und an unnecessary limitation because a lot of people use two different monitor mixes, one for the controlroom and one for the musician. Now either the engineer or the musician can listen to the latency free monitor mix, but one of them will have the annoying phase issues nonetheless. Or has to deal with annoying workarounds and listen to the signal with higher latency. And I don't know this for sure because I don't own PT10, but of course you can hear the recorded signal if you playback without software monitoring. As the name implies, it deactivates monitoring, not playback. So in other DAWs you can listen to the already recorded signal and when you punch in or record you will listen to the low-latency signal from your interface / console. PT10 is also special (with special meaning "retarded") here: on Out 1+2 if you deactive software monitoring, all plugins for the channels going to OUt 1+2 will be deactivated! How is it that every other DAW on this planet manages to give you plugins while playing back the audio and then switches to the low latency signal from the interface, but PT does not? Seriously, AVID. Please respond to this issue. It is stupid and a dealbreaker for many engineers using interfaces like Metric Halo 2882, Metric Halo ULN2, Metric Halo ULN8, LIO8, RME Fireface 400, 800, UC and UFX, RME Babyface, a whole lot of MOTU interfaces with dsp, and every engineer using a mixing console for tracking and monitor mixes. |
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Re: Avid, why can we still not disable software monitoring (for ALL outputs)?
Yes, seriously. What's the thinking behind this?
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Re: Avid, why can we still not disable software monitoring (for ALL outputs)?
very disappointing - I asked Max G if it was now possible to disable all software monitoring, and he answered yes. Why can't they just add the option in preferences like every other DAW?? Compared to the magic they can do with elastic audio and so forth it must be childs play for them to add such a thing.
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