6/8 vs 3/4 Meter (vs. 6/4 & 12/8) SOLVED

[Robruce]

How does one create a new session, or set an existing PT session so that the graphics (bar ruler) and click reflect true 6/8?
Setting the meter to 6/8 does not result in bars showing six beats per bar. Instead, each bar contains three beats;

What command or procedure produces 6/8 meter represented by bars containing 6 beats?

Also, no matter whether the meter is 6/8 or 3/4, the PT generated click seems unable to accent the desired downbeat for 6/8, it always accentuates a 3/4 count;

ONE 23, ONE 23....

Instead of; ONE 23456, ONE 23456....

When poking around in search of a solution, PT click glitched out on several combinations of note-values and it became unpredictably clipped or even intermittent. Seems broken.

Either this all used to work better or I'm forgetting something after being in MIDI 40+ years... and PT for 25.
Completed obligatory Google searches, seeking suggestions, education.

2020 M1 MINI
Apollo Quad Interface
Sonoma 14.7.2
PT 24.3.1.162

[unkJE]

For 6 Beats per Bar (ONE 23456), set Meter to 12/8

[massivekerry]

Check the current PT Reference Guide - page 1068

"For some meters, it may be desirable to use a dotted value for the click. For instance, if using a meter of 6/8, a dotted quarter note click (yielding two clicks per measure) is generally more suitable than a straight eighth note click (six clicks per measure)."

If you're looking for visuals, make sure you set your meter resolution to 8th notes and not quarters, and then view your grid in 8ths.

In actual practice, I've usually set the Meter to 6/8, made a click out of a percussion VI, committed a bar of it, and looped that throughout the timeline.

[Robruce]

Originally Posted by unkJE

For 6 Beats per Bar (ONE 23456), set Meter to 12/8

That did it. Brain got stuck thinking '6/8' when 6/4 (or 12/8) was the ticket. Click and measures behaving as needed now.
Thanks very much.

[Robruce]

Originally Posted by massivekerry

Check the current PT Reference Guide - page 1068

If you're looking for visuals, make sure you set your meter resolution to 8th notes and not quarters, and then view your grid in 8ths.

In actual practice, I've usually set the Meter to 6/8, made a click out of a percussion VI, committed a bar of it, and looped that throughout the timeline.

Thanks for the manual reference MK, will read up. embarrassing....

Yes 8th note grid resolution works ok Yes indeed looping a click is one good way to get what you need, and no doubt
less annoying than a mechanical click.

The problem was/is that 6/8 resolves to 3/4 or waltz time (duh me) with the click sounding ONE 23, ONE 23, and bars of three beats.
Exactly what I didn't want. For some reason '6/8' got stuck in the old brain, when 6/4 or 12/8 is the 'right' meter.

So unkJE's suggestion of 12/8 brought the bar length and click to where it needed to be. ONE 23456, ONE 23456.

And so actually either 12/8 or 6/4 with the grid set to quarters or eighths does the trick for the bar and the click.

Thanks much!