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Old 08-27-2001, 10:35 AM
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Default pitch shift / doubler effect plug in?

I'd like to create a doubling effect, where a vocal or instrument is pitch shifted up or down10 cents in the hard left and right channels. I looking for a fattening effect, but not necessarily a chorus effect. What plug ins will do this as a stereo effect? It would be ideal if there was an option for a bit of delay, too, preferabbly all in the same plug in.

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Old 08-27-2001, 11:29 AM
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Default Re: pitch shift / doubler effect plug in?

GRM tools makes a pitch shift plug, and so
does Waves. I'm not crazy about either of
them though. If you can find an old Eventide
949 or 969, that's the ticket. They have that
'70's Cars/Bowie fat spread that the plug-in's can't seem to replicate. The only down-
side is, I think they're not stereo, just
dry + effect out. All you do is print to
two tracks, +9 on one, -9 on the other. Very
cool sound though.
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Old 08-27-2001, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: pitch shift / doubler effect plug in?

Anything more than +/-6 will sound out of tune unless the track is perfectly in tune, ie an electronic keyboard with no modulation.
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Old 08-27-2001, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: pitch shift / doubler effect plug in?

Hi!

Why look at some expensive plugins???
Do I get this right? You want a fattening choruslike sound...
Try the following:
I.e. the vocals:
Double the track.
Put an insert on the channel and take digis short (or slap) delay (mono/stereo).
Set the delay of both sides to 3-7 ms for a very thick sound. For a doubling effect try about 15-20 ms.
Set the left mod rate to 0.5Hz, the right one to 0.7Hz.
Then make a mod depth of 60% (left) and 40% (right)...
Now mix it with the original track...
It´s an old trick I think...
Just try it!

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Old 08-28-2001, 09:08 AM
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Default Re: pitch shift / doubler effect plug in?

Thanks for the replies, but I guess I need to point out that the effect I want to apply will be quite subtle. I saw a demo of a ProTools plug in (don't recall which one) that pitched the signal up in one channel 10 cents, and down the other 10 cents, and when panned hard left and right and, blended low in the mix, it really did a wonderful job of fattening up a vocal without it sounding like a cheasy chorus effect or cause tuning or frequency phase shift problems. The person giving the demo also said he sometimes puts the pitched signals through some reverb or delay to diffuse them.

Does anyone offer a stereo pitch shifter that will do this?
Thanks in advance,
Dave Patterson
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Old 08-28-2001, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: pitch shift / doubler effect plug in?

Are you sure the demo guy didn't keep an hidden extra singer in his closet instead of a real plug in, these guys tends to get vicious when it comes to selling?...
Just kidding. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
Sorry Dave, I know this is not very useful...
More seriously, have you simply tried the Digirack Pitch? Also, the provided GRM Tools one is not that bad in my opinion...

[ August 28, 2001: Message edited by: Mr T ]
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Old 08-28-2001, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: pitch shift / doubler effect plug in?

Adding the the beefed up sales pitch scenario, +/-10 cents is anything but subtle, even at low levels.
Since I am not a plug-in fan, might I recommend a decent and inexpensive digital effects unit that will give you far more than just a pitch shift plug in. Sony makes a great dual engine dual processor unit called the DPS-V55. (nullhttp://www.h armony-central.com/Newp/WNAMM98/Sony/DPS-V55.html I have two, and they are great. With this you can do up to 4 effects (2 reverbs and 2 of anything else) in stereo, and the unit is about $400 new.
Sorry I can't advise you on plug-ins, but I hope this is helpful.
www.npstudios.com
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Old 08-28-2001, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: pitch shift / doubler effect plug in?

I needed to do some serious pitch shifting recently, and found the DigiRack Pitchshifter to be of very poor qualty. However, Serato's Pitch 'n Time did a GREAT job for me. see: http://www.serato.com/pnt/

No I don't work for them, just a very happy user! It is an audiosuite plug, with stereo support. I don't think it will do the seperate channel shifting though ... you will probably have to do it twice and move the tracks around. I highly recommend it though!

Try out their demo at:Serato home page
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Old 08-28-2001, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: pitch shift / doubler effect plug in?

is there a digirack pitch plug for rtas? have i just overlooked it?
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