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Old 12-03-2005, 02:43 PM
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Default Are my ears playing with me ???

Hi !

Yesterday a made a piano with reason slave in protools.
Then i i made an stereo audio chanel with inputs bus 1 - 2 and routed the aux output of reason chanels to thats bus. Nothing new the same i do all the time but after theprocess listen to the piano in audio i listened that the piano loose a lot of bass freqs i compared it with the midi one
and thats right the bass range was i think cut.

Is this normal or its only me and my ears.

If is right please someone explain .
There is other way to send the audio to protools ??


Thanks and excuse my english !!
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: Are my ears playing with me ???

If you are saying, that you are comparing the Piano coming from Reason with the track you recorded it to, then your ears are right and there is a straight answer to that. One is 32bit floating the other is only 24 bit .
With recording the sampler to a ProTools track you have truncated your piano sound. It should be less solid now, with less death, less body, less beauty. More hanging than standing.
Sorry. We are not equipped to do propper 32bit-printing to tracks.
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Old 12-03-2005, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: Are my ears playing with me ???

that doesnt explain a loss as low end. my understanding is reason sampes are 24bit anyway storing tracks in 32bit float is just a waste of space and you will notice little difference.
you can test it by recording the track through a 24bit dither
you must have an eq or an effect somewhere that you were hearing but it wasnt recorded
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Old 12-03-2005, 10:43 PM
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.. and you will notice little difference. ...you can test it by recording the track through a 24bit dither
Your saying that dither doesn´t improve prints for you?


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Old 12-03-2005, 11:13 PM
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no, if you read it they were seperate statments, dont take it out of context. dithering at 16bit will make a big difference when moving to a 16bit medium, however i can not hear the difference dithering at 24bit.
the diference between 32bit float and 24bit fixed is minimal. simply can not her the difference. the onset of pain is about 120db, 120db of dynamic range requires a 20bit digital signal, let alone the limitation of the converter. we cannot use the 144db available in 24bit so what is the point of 32bit let alone floating point. the 002 D/A converter has a dynamic range of 114db so anything beyond the 19th bit essentially gets truncated anyway
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