Avid Pro Audio Community

Avid Pro Audio Community

How to Join & Post  •  Community Terms of Use  •  Help Us Help You

Knowledge Base Search  •  Community Search  •  Learn & Support


Avid Home Page

Go Back   Avid Pro Audio Community > Legacy Products > Pro Tools TDM Systems (Mac)
Register FAQ Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-09-2010, 10:02 AM
Jon_Atkinson Jon_Atkinson is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: London
Posts: 881
Default Can any PT9 users confirm this works...?

Hi,
I tried posting on the PT9 board, but no takers....

I, like many others have been using either the built in digital-out on the Mac, or a dedicated second soundcard to pipe audio from the Mac (iTunes etc) into PT.

There's a free app called Soundflower, which behaves like a hardware soundcard....

http://cycling74.com/products/soundflower/

I'm wondering if PT9 will see this as an available input device....
I can't check myself as I'm stuck in PT8 world on a PPC G5...
Might save a bit of irritating external routing....?

I'm also wondering if the multi output version of this might work as a link for Bidule....? Or indeed, standalone VEPro....?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-09-2010, 10:20 AM
DigiTechSupt's Avatar
DigiTechSupt DigiTechSupt is offline
Avid
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Worldwide
Posts: 33,877
Default Re: Can any PT9 users confirm this works...?

Yes, it will see it. It seems to work fine here, though we didn't put a ton of testing time into it...
__________________
Avid Audio Tech Support
Help us help you - read this before posting
Support FAQ
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-09-2010, 01:15 PM
Jon_Atkinson Jon_Atkinson is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: London
Posts: 881
Default

That's great....
Certainly a handy workaround for the iTunes into PT thing...
I wonder how stable it would be running something more critical...?

Might breathe new life into Bidule...?
__________________
Mac Pro 2019 3.5GHz 8 Core 48GB RAM
OS 13.6.3
Protools Studio 2023.12
Antelope Orion 32, Vienna Ensemble Pro 5,
UAD Quad PCIe
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-22-2010, 07:05 PM
jwccomp jwccomp is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 6
Default Re: Can any PT9 users confirm this works...?

I've been trying for days to make this work with PT9 HD/192 I/O with no luck. Can you give more details DigiTechSupt? I can get Pro Tools to recognize Soundflower inputs only if I change my PT playback engine to Soundflower, in which case I lose all my TDM inputs and outputs. I also get serious clocking issues.

I came very close to making the idea work with jackosx by launching jackosx, then launching PT, then assigning the playback engine to jackosx. Jackosx will run in addition to my 192 I/O ins and outs, not replacing them like Soundflower. I had audio passing from Logic, iTunes and standalone software instruments like BFD2 nicely. But as soon as I hit play or record in PT the transport would stop.

Thanks in advance for any details.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-22-2010, 07:07 PM
jwccomp jwccomp is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 6
Default Re: Can any PT9 users confirm this works...?

Didn't mean to hijack the thread Jon, I could start a different thread if necessary.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-22-2010, 07:33 PM
Rail Jon Rogut Rail Jon Rogut is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Posts: 14,492
Default Re: Can any PT9 users confirm this works...?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jwccomp View Post
I've been trying for days to make this work with PT9 HD/192 I/O with no luck. Can you give more details DigiTechSupt? I can get Pro Tools to recognize Soundflower inputs only if I change my PT playback engine to Soundflower, in which case I lose all my TDM inputs and outputs. I also get serious clocking issues.
You cannot mix and match HD hardware (DAE drivers) and CoreAudio drivers.

Even in Native, I can't get PT9 and Soundflower to work on my system, I get a sample rate mismatch error... Soundflower doesn't report an exact 44,100Hz or 48,000 Hz sample rate in AMS.

Rail
__________________
Platinum Samples
www.platinumsamples.com
Engineered Drums for BFD
••••••••••••••••••••••••••••
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-22-2010, 08:35 PM
jwccomp jwccomp is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 6
Default Re: Can any PT9 users confirm this works...?

Ok. I needed to hear that definitive reality.

My apologies again for hogging your thread Jon, but my follow up question is, is there a way to select "core audio" as a playback engine in PT9? Is that what the "Pro Tools Aggregate" is supposed to do? I'll wait to hear the answer to that before asking "how?"!

Thanks much.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-22-2010, 08:42 PM
jwccomp jwccomp is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 6
Default Re: Can any PT9 users confirm this works...?

I read this in another thread:


I figured it out. For anyone else interested, here's what to do:

1. Download and install Soundflower.
2. In Audio/MIDI Setup, make an Aggregate Device consisting of your audio interface (Mbox 2 Pro, for example) and Soundflower (2 ch).
3. In Mac > System Preferences > Sound, set "Output" to Soundflower (2 ch). This forces the System audio to Soundflower.
3. In PT, set the Playback Engine to the Aggregate Device you made.
4. In PT > Setup > I/O > Input, rename the inputs if necessary to make them easier to find when selecting inputs on an Audio or Aux Track. Clicking "Default" may help.
5. In PT, create an Audio or Aux Track, and select the Soundflower input.
6. Play the Youtube video, record-enable the track in PT, and you should hear the audio coming from Youtube.

Does the mBox 2 Pro not use the DAE driver?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-23-2010, 09:34 PM
saggsy saggsy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Adelaide, Australia
Posts: 220
Default Re: Can any PT9 users confirm this works...?

what do you set your clock to?

or what is the best way if clocking sound flower?

I originally noticed that the clock for soundflower was set to 'internal mic' - i was getting clicks and pops aswell.

I then changed it to 'internal input' - i am getting better results from this.
It still does randomly pop a bit, but way, way less.

Basically - to me it sounds like a clocking issue between what clock actual 'protools' or what ever the DAW is using and what clock sound flower is using.

I basically use it to route iTunes into Protools 9 - so doesn't that mean that there are 3 clocking and bit rate/sample rate situations going on?

1. What bit/sample rate and clock iTunes is outputting to Soundflower.
2. What bit/sample rate and clock Soundflower is using to route the digital internal audio.
3. What bit/sample rate and clock Protools is using and expecting to receive on its internal digital channel from Soundflower.
__________________
Matt Saggs
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-25-2010, 08:39 AM
rockridge98 rockridge98 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 282
Default Re: Can any PT9 users confirm this works...?

If you don't need to record your Mac audio in real time,
another option is get Audio Hijack and have it save your iTunes or YouTube audio to a Wav file
and import that into Pro Tools.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Can I get someone to confirm that Bidule works with 8.0.4 efficiently? Violet 003, Mbox 2, Digi 002, original Mbox, Digi 001 (Win) 0 07-13-2010 12:35 PM
GA-EP45-UD3 - Anyone confirm it works? dbjp Pro Tools TDM Systems (Win) 8 09-11-2009 06:57 PM
Massenburg design works users, can you test 4 me crizdee Pro Tools TDM Systems (Mac) 12 02-05-2006 12:01 PM
Quicktime Movie Users w/PT5.1 Please Confirm barden Pro Tools TDM Systems (Mac) 3 03-21-2001 01:58 PM
PC Users Unite!! (AKA...I Hope This PC Software Works) gtrboy 003, Mbox 2, Digi 002, original Mbox, Digi 001 (Mac) 3 05-28-2000 09:34 AM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:32 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited. Forum Hosted By: URLJet.com