Structure LE Unstable on PTHD8

[john1192]

i am trying so hard to like structure ... unstable at best when searching and building patches ... it just crashes ...

the thing that is making me angry is that the AIR peeps are asking for donations to help continuing support online .. i am more than happy to donate but i would like my purchase to work first ...

so how can we help you DIGI and AIR so that this Sampler works .... we are already beta testing ..

i even bought another Structure LE for a friend and i am telling him to not mess with it ... i just wasted more money ...

PLease Please Please stop putting out products that are not ready .... do it right and many will buy it .. do it this way and you will lose me and others that just want to be creative ...

thank you

john

[daslicht]

Originally Posted by john1192

PLease Please Please stop putting out products that are not ready .... do it right and many will buy it .. do it this way and you will lose me and others that just want to be creative ...

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I am happy that I have tried the DEMO before actually spending good money for Structure full.

[Alan Z]

Originally Posted by john1192

i am trying so hard to like structure ... unstable at best when searching and building patches ... it just crashes ...

the thing that is making me angry is that the AIR peeps are asking for donations to help continuing support online .. i am more than happy to donate but i would like my purchase to work first ...

Sorry you're having issues with Structure LE stability. It seems you are not alone and that's frustrating, I know.

The AIR Users Blog is an independent entity that is an attempt at providing support and content for Structure, Hybrid, Transfuser and lots of other AIR products. It's staffed by a volunteer and so donations are requested in order to cover costs of bandwidth for downloads. There are some connections into AIR and Avid but the blog is definitely not an official part of those two organizations.

I can understand that paying for content that can't be used is annoying but it is voluntary and for many people stability is not the issue it is with others, so the blog does provide a service worth donating to/for for some of us.

[john1192]

alan,

thank you for responding ...

i am doing this in a calm and adult manner .. for all of us that are pro's and need some help ...

if we are running fully compatible versions of all - OS, PTHD, plugin versions ... then the software should work (yes, i understand that S$%T happens ... )

if this is not addressed in the next few months i will be advising my clients to move to another sampler or DAW, if need be but that is drastic ...

this is unacceptable ...

for many people stability is not the issue it is with others .... are you kidding me .. Alan ... did you just type this out loud ?

AIR / Digi advertises product .. if i buy a life preserver for a child and the child drowns due to manufacturer defect ... there is a problem ..

someone is not holding software companies to the higher standard ..

Pro Tools .. earn the name ... we are pro's doing pro work and would like some pro tools to do it ..

it is a great program .. i have been a user since PTIII ... i do tech support for several composers ..

this is not just me bitching .. this is a group of folks bitching At Me because their purchased software does not work as advertised ....

Help Us ...

cheers

john

[Premo]

Well, if it makes you feel any better, you shouldn't have to switch to a new DAW and tell all your clients to get new software.

RussUK and beta testers have been using the new updated Structure Beta and have said Digi and AIR are working to release updates for the AIR plug-ins family supposedly in the next few months.

as stated in this thread
http://duc.digidesign.com/showthread...updates&page=7

If you read only RussUK and Digitechsupt, and avoid the hate spew then you'll find actual info on progress.

So I'd at least hang in there to see if that fixes things. Best.

[RussUK]

Thanks guys for getting John up to speed on who is who and what is what.

John your post is partly correct in terms that you is quite possible for you to have up to date software and plugins and a machine that is to spec but it could be conceivably the case that you may have a memory issue for example, it's simply not enough to state that everything is to spec and then blame Digi because your software isn't functioning.

There are plenty of people in the DUC who are happy to help try and sort stuff out, but it's usually better to start from a help position rather than a blame one.

BTW I'd get that keyboard looked at it seems to keep adding unnecessary full stops in your posts.

[john1192]

please read my posts without any emotion and they should make good sense .. thank you

wonderful to have all these threads going for this issue ... that should help keep this continuing effort to resolve this issue alive ...

i thought it would help to express my opinion concerning the reality of the world ... and i only read the replies there are relevant ... i work and do not have time for this but there is no other way to get your voice heard when you have an issue with the company that you purchased lots of gear from over the years ... yes, i am a loyal good upgrading / stay on the cutting edge for your clients kinda guy ...

my clients are the ones asking for me to look for other options for DAW's ... this really is their voice in concert with mine ...

and of course they are working on it ... no dispute ... all software companies are working on their software ... that is the difference between software and hardware ... you can sell software that is Done but Never Finished ... so many variables ... we all understand this ... and we are all willing to help the New Hardware (software) companies be all they can be ...

this is the future ...... it is here ......

and Russ ............ i have been doing this ...... for as long as there have been computer programs you could type into ...... and 900+ posts like this .............. nothing wrong with my keyboard .... i like the period ... it is the end of things .... end end end ....

peace all .. cheers

john

[RussUK]

Originally Posted by john1192

and Russ ............ i have been doing this ...... for as long as there have been computer programs you could type into ...... and 900+ posts like this .............. nothing wrong with my keyboard .... i like the period ... it is the end of things .... end end end ....

peace all .. cheers

john

So which one of them is 'the end'?

3 would be a leading sentence, one would be an end, two superfluous, 5 I suppose could be either a leading statement and an end, plus one for good luck?

[Alan Z]

John,

I guess I was responding mostly to the part of your first post about

"...the thing that is making me angry is that the AIR peeps are asking for donations to help continuing support online .. i am more than happy to donate but i would like my purchase to work first"

I was only trying to clarify what I thought was a reference to the AIR User Blog, i.e. that the Blog is a separate site, run by RussUK as a service to the users of Structure, Structure LE and Structure Free and the other AIR VIs and plug-ins and so donations are aimed at keeping that place afloat and aren't meant as donations to a company that should be using a more free market capitalistic model to acquire funding and keep the cash flow going.

I am assuming now that the stability issues are coming from LE and full Structure users and not Structure Free users since I don't believe I've seen any posts about Structure Free stability and I personally have not seen any such issues with my own admittedly not-all-that-complex set up.

Sorry for the confusion and I do wish I could help you with your Structure LE stability issues.

Alan

[john1192]

i do understand what and who the money is for ...

and again the statement stands as i wrote it .. if you read anything into it it will sound horrible ... like all this electronic messaging it can be interpreted instead of just plain read ...

this is a good service for us ... the comment was not made towards RussUK or the good works they are doing ... thank you

the comment was made towards AIR / Digi ... if you are part of that then please take to heart that i was excited to see, and still am, a sampler for pro tools ... but disappointed when it crashed while searching for sounds or trying to add a part to a patch ...

i will use whatever version you guys come up with ... i will be a proper beta tester or continue to post what i find here what i find with each version ... i do want to help ... just ask us ... it is like noone will ask for help ...

500.00 for the version that will make multi's ... i will most likely not do the upgrade and use EXS to make my multi's and then import into structure .. this is my work around until it is up to speed ...

RussUK ... i did not know there were all these rules associated with the .

look, i am not to much of a dick ... really ... but i hold people to a high level ... you are smart guys or we would not have all these great tools .. i am still having a ball with Velvet ...

so take me as you will .. i mean only well .. but sometimes we all need to stand up and bitch a little ... this country is going in the crapper ...

you wanna talk healthcare ... me neither ..

cheers

john