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Old 01-31-2000, 01:55 AM
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Default PT5 midi erratic whilst bouncing....

I have a problem with erratic midi whilst bouncing.
During upgrading to PT5 I purchased a Alesis DMPRO drum module to replace my aging D4. Being multi-timbral I can set up a seperate drum on each PT midi track and control volume, pan etc from PT. All setting are then saved with PT and I don't need to create audio tracks of each drum.
All was fine during tracking and Mixing but when I finally bounced to disk the midi became erratic. Rather than embarace myself in front my clients, I recorded the drums to two audio tracks and bounced just audio. This worked fine & my clients left happy.
After he left I recorded the drums only by using "bounce to disk", then imported the audio into the session. The DMPRO was giving a delay of 7ms which is slighly higher than my old DM (4ms) but acceptable, but every 2.3 bars a delay of 35ms was being added by PT as follows:-
Bar delay
3:4 35ms
6.3 35ms
9.2 35ms
12.1 35ms
14.4 35ms etc etc
This caused the Bass drum and snare to be played late with obvious consequences.
But it did not happen when recording to a track !!!
Is anyone else getting this ?

Digi
Any ideas ?

I use an OPCODE 64X interface which works fine on tracking & mixing ....


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Old 01-31-2000, 04:28 AM
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Default Re: PT5 midi erratic whilst bouncing....

I have got a similar problem in 5.0 which already existed in 4.2.6.
When I use the bounce function it seems to me that PT uses all of my computers power so everything else running - including the midi driver - becomes very low in priority so the midi timing is completly unuseable.
As a workaround I send output to a stereo bus and record on 2 audio tracks. Everything is o.k. except that this method consumes 2 more voices and some dsp power. I hope digidesign will improve bounce performance.
I use a winman 4x4s, NT SP4, PT5.0, mixplus and mackie HUI.
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Old 01-31-2000, 06:41 AM
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Default Re: PT5 midi erratic whilst bouncing....

I wrote a question last week about PT5.0 and a midi sync problem...
I am having a sync problem related to syncing my cakewalk files using an external Music quest 8 port.. It seems that there is a serious time delay when I start to record.... I will call digi today to try to resolve the issue... and report back
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Old 02-05-2000, 12:06 AM
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Default Re: PT5 midi erratic whilst bouncing....

hello digi ....
Anyone there ......
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Old 02-09-2000, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: PT5 midi erratic whilst bouncing....

Is anyone else getting midi stability problems whilst bouncing or am I the only person using PT midi ?
I need to know whether it's PT5 or my setup...
Positive feedback will help me ..
Thanks
John
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Old 02-11-2000, 09:46 AM
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Default Re: PT5 midi erratic whilst bouncing....

If any of you that are having MIDI problems are using the Midiman Winman 4x4s then you need to run the DOS diagnostics that come with the interface card. There is a chip upgrade available from Midiman that will fix certain problems. If your card fails any of the diagnostics then you should contact Midiman regarding the upgrade. I've gone through the process and resolved the MIDI issues I was having. Good Luck

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