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Old 05-23-2006, 02:27 AM
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I'm using PT 6.9 with the 002 and a Command 8. When I'm routing midi, I'm going out of my controller in to the C8, out of the C8 in to a midi patchbay, from the PB to sound modules. I've done this before with other systems, platforms, software, etc. with no problem. My problem here is that when I use the same receive channel on each module, they both play their preset assigned to that channel. Yet in PT I'm using the receive in the mix window as the receiving module. If I'm transmitting on "all" and rec on any particular module ch, only that module should play like virtual instruments do. In other software it's like assigning ports. Port 1 goes to Roland mod, Port 2 goes to Yamaha mod, etc. Same as in PT where you assign midi rec channel. The difference is no matter how many external modules I use and assign them on the rec ch in PT, they all play at the same time if they are using the same channel, not individually. If i say midi track 4 is trans on all and rec Roland JV ch 13 and midi ch 5 is trans on all and rec Proteus 1 ch 13, track 4 and 5 should not be "sharing" the same channel. I actually need this many channels and instruments for orchestartion in case you are wondering. Thanks for the help!
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Old 05-23-2006, 04:38 AM
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I'm going out of my controller in to the C8, out of the C8 in to a midi patchbay, from the PB to sound modules.
When you are doing this, you are only using one MIDI port. To use your example from "other software", everything is hooked up to "port 1" in a daisy chain, so your Roland mod is on port 1, your yamaha mod is on port 1, etc etc.

What MIDI patchbay are you using? Can it be connected to the computer any other way than daisy chaining it like you are? Newer MIDI patchbays, like the M-Audio midisport 8x8, can be connected to the computer via USB, and each port of the patchbay becomes a 16 channel MIDI port available to the computer. This would allow you to hook everything up in the way that you are hoping it will work.

Daisy chaining it like you are will give you the results you are experiencing every time.
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Old 05-23-2006, 04:29 PM
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Thanks for the reply. I'm using an old KMX Midi Central patch bay which I've always used on all of my setups with no problem. If I have multiple external modules I can assign the same midi channel and use independent patches from each module per channel strip. If I am daisy chaing, why did it work with other software? You would think PT would have a way to route this in Midi Studio Setup. I've exhausted all options. I thought I might be missing something. Thanks for the help.
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Old 05-23-2006, 07:42 PM
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If I am daisy chaing, why did it work with other software?
What computer MIDI interface were you using with other software? Was it the same setup as you are trying to use here? Out the C8 ports? I'm thinking no, as it just isn't physically possible.
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You would think PT would have a way to route this in Midi Studio Setup.
It does; it just doesn't have a prenamed assignment for the KMX. The KMX isn't even connected to the computer. It's connected to the C8, which is connected to the computer. MIDI studio only assigns recognizable names to the ports connected to the computer. You can assign the name "KMX" to either of the two available output ports of the C8, but it only makes it recognizable for selection, it really does nothing functional in this case.

The KMX is a MIDI patchbay, not a MIDI interface. All it will do is re-assign it's MIDI inputs to it's MIDI outputs. The MIDI ports you are using are the ports on the C8. If you send data out MIDI channel 1, over one cable, and assign that input to multiple outputs, it's logical that all instruments will play all MIDI channels sent, unless you set the individual instruments to only receive on one specific MIDI channel (or send out sysex to turn off channels).
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Old 05-23-2006, 07:55 PM
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Here's an idea; why don't you tell us what modules you are trying to hook up, and exactly what you are tying to do with them (16 channels to the roland, 8 channels to the yamaha, etc etc) we can suggest ways to hook it up that will satify what you need.

I'm pretty sure the KMX is unnecessary at this point.
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Old 05-27-2006, 04:02 PM
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[i have a digi002, 1in/1out usb midisport interface,mpc 2000xl and a g4 powerbook.im trying to control reason with the mpc thru protools.i think i made the proper connections in the audio midi setup screen ,connected the midi interface out the mpc,in to the digi002 and its still not triggering reason from the mpc. can someone help me with this?
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three2, you need to create your own thread. What you are doing is called "thread stealing" and it is generally considered rude.
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