Avid Pro Audio Community

Avid Pro Audio Community

How to Join & Post  •  Community Terms of Use  •  Help Us Help You

Knowledge Base Search  •  Community Search  •  Learn & Support


Avid Home Page

Go Back   Avid Pro Audio Community > Pro Mixing > Avid Pro Mixing General Discussion
Register FAQ Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-08-2021, 06:58 AM
DonaldM's Avatar
DonaldM DonaldM is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 4,588
Default Choosing your compressor plugin

Something I've wondered about for a while, so I thought I'd just ask you Pros out there. How do you decide which of your (probably)dozens of compressor plugins you're going to use on a particular track. Like most of you I'm sure, I have several compressor plugins. I don't have a "go to" one yet. I keep trying different ones on different kinds of tracks. I understand how compression works, but the "art" of selecting the right compressor for a track is a different animal. I would be interested in hearing how some of you guys make that choice.



I'm not asking which make/model compressor you think is the "best"...but rather what you look for in selecting one you want to use for a particular track.


Thanks.
__________________
"Never believe anything you hear in a song." Tyrion Lannister, Game of Thrones
Owner: Dragon Rock Productions LLC


Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-08-2021, 12:47 PM
EGS's Avatar
EGS EGS is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,699
Default Re: Choosing your compressor plugin

I go by sound.

Waves RennComp always sounds good & is low latency - i.e. track-thru-plug works fine. I used to like Avid black 1176 until I discovered IK Multimedia black 1176 simply sounds better. Avid Smack, IK Multimedia red opto-comp and IK white LA-2A all good. Anything can do the job, really, in my opinion. Different ones for each need, no one size fits all. Adjust attack/release times, ratio and knee if available. Sometimes I like a good multi-band too, especially for mastering.

Super secret tip: sometimes NO compression is the answer.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 175954700_4551582868190933_5210405822112273825_n.jpg (44.9 KB, 0 views)
__________________
Desktop build: PT 2020.5 / Win 11 / i9-11900K @ 5.1GHz / 64GB / 4TB NVMe PCIe 4 / Gigabyte Z590 Vision D / PreSonus 2626
Laptop: PT 2020.5 / Win 11 / i5-12500H / 16GB / 1TB NVMe / Lenovo IdeaPad 5i Pro / U-PHORIA UMC1820
Ancient/Legacy (still works!): PT 5 & 6 / OS9 & OSX / Mac G4 / DIGI 001
Click for audio/video demo
Click for resume
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-08-2021, 12:50 PM
JFreak's Avatar
JFreak JFreak is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Tampere, Finland
Posts: 24,901
Default Re: Choosing your compressor plugin

In very top studios most common plugin is still the hardware insert.
__________________
Janne
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-08-2021, 04:30 PM
DonaldM's Avatar
DonaldM DonaldM is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 4,588
Default Re: Choosing your compressor plugin

Quote:
Originally Posted by EGS View Post
I go by sound.

Waves RennComp always sounds good & is low latency - i.e. track-thru-plug works fine. I used to like Avid black 1176 until I discovered IK Multimedia black 1176 simply sounds better. Avid Smack, IK Multimedia red opto-comp and IK white LA-2A all good. Anything can do the job, really, in my opinion. Different ones for each need, no one size fits all. Adjust attack/release times, ratio and knee if available. Sometimes I like a good multi-band too, especially for mastering.

Super secret tip: sometimes NO compression is the answer.

I get that no one size fits all. I like my IKM black 1176 and the White LA2A as well. I use the latter a lot on vocals. Seems to really even things out nicely. You're right also about the no compression - or very very minimal. I just sometimes wonder if there might be certain things I should be listening for when selecting a compressor for a particular track.

I have the most difficulty in using the MB compressors. I find it difficult to find the right bands to set the different zones at. I just go by my ears.
__________________
"Never believe anything you hear in a song." Tyrion Lannister, Game of Thrones
Owner: Dragon Rock Productions LLC


Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-09-2021, 08:15 AM
albee1952's Avatar
albee1952 albee1952 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Norwich, CT
Posts: 39,326
Default Re: Choosing your compressor plugin

I have some favorites, and here's the what and why for me
1-SMACK!_this is Avid's version of an LA-2A and it works really well on voices
2-BF76- works well on acoustic guitars and I also use it before SMACK! on vocal tracks
3-Slate's Distressor(with Slate's Neve EQ in VMR) is great on a drum compression bus. The Distressor allows for adding a distortion element and the EQ is good for gentle added low-end punch, or a slight dip around 500Hz.
4-Waves Puigchild(Fairchild) has some nice character for electric guitars when needed.

R-Comp is very popular, but I just find myself using the above. The only other "2 cents" I have is to avoid the stock Avid Dyn3. In critical listening, it caused some distortion that was not pleasant at all.
__________________
HP Z4 workstation, Mbox Studio
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/...0sound%20works


The better I drink, the more I mix

BTW, my name is Dave, but most people call me.........................Dave
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-09-2021, 08:44 AM
K Roche's Avatar
K Roche K Roche is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Wilds of Wyoming
Posts: 2,307
Default Re: Choosing your compressor plugin

I suppose because I have a great stereo HW 2 Bus compressor and because I am usually am not doing a lot of different instruments.

Depending on how sparse the arrangement is I may not put a comp on individual instruments
When I do put one on the tracks, I usually use the Avid Bundled Fairchild
On those few sessions where I have drums,,, on the kick and sometimes the snare ,I will put the Complete Plug in Bundle, BF 76
__________________
System :
Studio - Avid Carbon interface , PT Ultimate 2023.12 Mid 2020 (intel) iMac 27" Ventura 13.2 .1
Mobile - 2021 14 " MBP M1 Pro PT Ultimate 2023.12.1 Sonoma 14.4



Enjoy the Journey
.... Kev...
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-09-2021, 11:58 AM
DonaldM's Avatar
DonaldM DonaldM is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 4,588
Default Re: Choosing your compressor plugin

Quote:
Originally Posted by albee1952 View Post
I have some favorites, and here's the what and why for me
1-SMACK!_this is Avid's version of an LA-2A and it works really well on voices
2-BF76- works well on acoustic guitars and I also use it before SMACK! on vocal tracks
3-Slate's Distressor(with Slate's Neve EQ in VMR) is great on a drum compression bus. The Distressor allows for adding a distortion element and the EQ is good for gentle added low-end punch, or a slight dip around 500Hz.
4-Waves Puigchild(Fairchild) has some nice character for electric guitars when needed.

R-Comp is very popular, but I just find myself using the above. The only other "2 cents" I have is to avoid the stock Avid Dyn3. In critical listening, it caused some distortion that was not pleasant at all.

I haven't actually used SMACK! on anything. I should take a closer look at it and wha tit does. I agree about the Avid Dyn3. I have used the Avid Pro Compressor quite a bit though. I like how it sounds, especially on drums.
__________________
"Never believe anything you hear in a song." Tyrion Lannister, Game of Thrones
Owner: Dragon Rock Productions LLC


Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-09-2021, 12:03 PM
JFreak's Avatar
JFreak JFreak is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Tampere, Finland
Posts: 24,901
Default Re: Choosing your compressor plugin

Smack! is great on TDM
__________________
Janne
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-09-2021, 05:28 PM
albee1952's Avatar
albee1952 albee1952 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Norwich, CT
Posts: 39,326
Default Re: Choosing your compressor plugin

The Pro plugins are quite good, but I never seem to use them, even though I have them The advantage of the Slate distressor is the distortion feature, but you can always drop SoundToys Decapitator in(or any of several other distortion plugins). Adding a touch can really make drums pop(in a good way)
__________________
HP Z4 workstation, Mbox Studio
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/...0sound%20works


The better I drink, the more I mix

BTW, my name is Dave, but most people call me.........................Dave
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-10-2021, 07:41 AM
DonaldM's Avatar
DonaldM DonaldM is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 4,588
Default Re: Choosing your compressor plugin

Quote:
Originally Posted by albee1952 View Post
The Pro plugins are quite good, but I never seem to use them, even though I have them The advantage of the Slate distressor is the distortion feature, but you can always drop SoundToys Decapitator in(or any of several other distortion plugins). Adding a touch can really make drums pop(in a good way)

Yes, I have done that a few times. I can't remember which plug in I used for that, though.
__________________
"Never believe anything you hear in a song." Tyrion Lannister, Game of Thrones
Owner: Dragon Rock Productions LLC


Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Choosing which EQ/Dynamic plugin opens on Artist mix Interactivesound Artist Series 3 04-04-2017 01:31 PM
Help choosing Uad plugin. TimothyJohn macOS 8 01-15-2012 05:32 AM
Compressor plugin's? Edson 003, Mbox 2, Digi 002, original Mbox, Digi 001 (Mac) 16 03-21-2007 09:40 AM
Compressor Plugin Missing danisrael Pro Tools TDM Systems (Mac) 6 02-08-2007 10:01 AM
What's your favorite compressor plugin? Allbaldo Pro Tools TDM Systems (Mac) 10 06-14-2005 01:35 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:15 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited. Forum Hosted By: URLJet.com