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Re: NEW -> Pro Tools | Carbon Pre
IO for a fully expanded system below. The guide should be published before the end of the week on the Carbon Requirements KB as well.
https://avid.secure.force.com/pkb/ar...n-Requirements Inputs: Carbon Mic/Line 1-8 ADAT 1 1-8 ADAT 2 1-8 TB Carbon Pre 1 Mic/Line 1-8 Carbon Pre 2 Mic/Line 1-8 Outputs Carbon Mon LR HP 1-4 (stereo) Line 1-8 ADAT 1 1-8 ADAT 2 1-8 Carbon Pre 1 Line 1-8 Carbon Pre 2 Line 1-8
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Re: NEW -> Pro Tools | Carbon Pre
Hey all!
Carbon Pre is OUT and shipping. More info is available on the KB. You may also have noticed a little app in your account called Carbon Central... I'll write up a post for this shortly too... but gone are the days of AMS! https://avid.secure.force.com/pkb/ar...n-Requirements
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Re: NEW -> Pro Tools | Carbon Pre
Had this been offered a while ago I might have bought in. I liked the idea of the Carbon interface as a replacement for my Omni but I was a little concerned about the lack of expandability and the newer AVB protocol.
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I've been told the AVB is proprietary to AVID and there is comparability outside of PT. I don't know if that is true.
But, keeping the AVB structure within AVID just limits AVID. There are plenty of other outboard AVB devices that compete greater than AVID at the same price and you get more. It is a shame, as I do like the new unit and even considered it until Barry John's broke it all down.
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It is the stupidity of AVB in general, really. Presonus, MOTU, Avid... they are all guilty of it. Standardized forms of AVB, like MILAN, have existed for quite a while. They have certification programs. They guarantee interoperability with other MILAN devices. None of them bothered to do it though. Instead, Avid want to sell owners of their live sound desks an MILAN expansion card so you can run.... two types of AVB in one system.
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Barry does offer some good info BUT Barry gets so spun out in his prejudicial distain for Avid that he "broke it all down" with an inaccurate statement and some prejudicial false equivalencies Regardless of his claim,, he seems to be more highly subjective and only marginally objective First (inaccurate claim) Exactly like the RME Fireface UFX + ,,, Carbon has TWO (not one ) ADAT banks No. 1 and No. 2 for a total 16 channels which is the number of ADAT channels RME has (which he later states about the RME) Second (false equivalency #1) the RME Fireface UFX + Has 4 mic preamps the Carbon has 8.. So that fact alone is an objective reason the Carbon is $1000 more than the RME . Objectively $250 per channel for top quality mic's pres and conversion is not at all unreasonable . Then he goes on to use the word play -- The Carbon has top of line "interface" quality mic pres" while implying --but not as quality as top dedicated pre's--- which is a totally subjective (not objective) assessment and highly debatable Third (false equivalency #2) "the interface alone" ? No there is no $2700 to $3000 dollar interface (that I know of ) that has 8 high end mic pre's and converters that has integrated seamless DSP available using a single layer of software Most of the better $2700 - $3500 interface that offer some kind of DSP are 4 preamps and require dual layers of software,, and by the time you ad four more high quality mic pre's with high end conversion you will be at $4k or more So No you are not paying $1000 to $1300 more for only DSP The Carbon and Carbon pre microphone preamps are as good as almost any mic pre on the market period ,, interface or dedicated standalone mic pre. And the same can said of the converters And as far as the price of the Carbon Pre. ? ) Objectively $375 per channel for top tier mic pre's and conversion is also not out of line. ( you will likely pay double that for a 1 channel of 500 format mic pre ) Not to mention being able to seamlessly integrate the Carbon and Carbon Pre for DSP usage, in a single layer of software ..... I like Barry but I would view his video/s with a grain of salt ... Now saying he thinks there are better bargains out there is a perfectly valid totally subjective personal opinion... But saying anyone who buys a Carbon Pre is "out of their mind" is total personal agenda driven hype and BS I would not buy a Carbon Pre because I don't need more than the 8 mic pre's I have on my Carbon ,,,, BUT if I did, I would give it serious consideration and certainly not dismiss out of hand based on the objectively questionable assessment of someone butt hurt about Avid here is the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7NO...ohnsStudioTalk
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As for the 8-channel Carbon Pre being $3k, that's what you'd pay for a 4-channel John Hardy pre. Is that more than, let's say, a Focusrite OctoPre, yes, but it's also a better quality preamp. You've heard those preamps so I'm pretty sure you know how good they are. Quality costs money, no? If I needed eight extra preamps, the Carbon Pre is actually a fairly economically friendly option compared to the boutique options on the market. As I said to you over at AGF, I don't need the pres. What I really want to see is a 16 channel Avid AVB box without pres. I'm buying that the day it comes out and I have to think that's in the works if Avid is looking at UA as a direct competitor in this market. |
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I really take issue with him pushing Stam gear. That company is a pile of problems and the owner is the most deceitful person I've ever encountered, not just in the audio industry, but perhaps in my entire life. There are still people who have been waiting years for gear to be delivered on orders that were promised delivery in a couple of months. Yet Barry recommends them without a second thought for the people he encourages to go down that shady path. |
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