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Insert (plugins) order and Undo?
Hi! I have decided to learn Pro Tools as I need it for mixing and I REALLY like how stable and fast it is, however I cannot solve an issue. I am playing around in the mix window and when I create an insert chain with a few plugins I can't find an option to rearrange the order of the plugins on a track other than pulling them one by one to another slot. If I drag a plugin over another, it just replaces that plugin.
Also, when I accidentally replace a plugin by dragging and dropping another one, there is no Undo option so I have to go back to a saved version of the session and start over. What am I missing here? Last edited by PortWill; 11-26-2022 at 03:47 PM. |
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Re: Insert (plugins) order and Undo?
Not missing a thing. That's just how it works in Pro Tools(and it is a popular request). Some things to remember:
1-If you really can't pay attention enough to avoid dropping on top of a plugin you want to keep, you might think about working the changes in a different order. 2-you can use the track next door(so to speak) as a place keeper(if its got plugins, you could also create a new blank track and then delete it later. Just make sure that track is the same "width"(as in mono, stereo, 5.1, etc) 3-you can leave empty slots anywhere you like(I almost always leave slot A open for Melodyne, just in case). 4-if you are putting reverb or delay plugins directly on audio tracks, consider putting them on separate AUX tracks and use sends to "feed" those effects. This is often a more efficient way to use those effects, and would be fewer plugins that you might need to move
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Re: Insert (plugins) order and Undo?
Thank you for the detailed answer. I think the best solution will be to have another track as you mentioned and drag plugins for A/B-ing.
This is obviously not an issue when it comes to live channels but becomes more of a hassle when it comes to mastering and trying out different chains with EQs, saturators and various compressors all doing slightly different tasks. It is not hard to accidentally drag & drop when you are used to this kind of workflow in literally any other DAW It means I will need to have a slightly different workflow now. I appreciate the tip about the empty slots, that makes so much sense!! Thanks a ton! |
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Re: Insert (plugins) order and Undo?
I agree with Albee. It's a good idea to leave the A insert empty.
If you decide to swap effect order or to add something like a tape simulator, that may introduce latency when tracking, its nice to have an empty slot instead of having to move everything around. I tend to insert a channel strip (like SSL) onto each channel (hold down option when selecting the plugin). I'll do this on the second or third slot and that way I have a good starting point as well as some room to expand either way. Enjoy ProTools!
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Re: Insert (plugins) order and Undo?
Another thing to think about is to get into a habit of putting certain types of plugins in certain slots across all your tracks such as:
Slot A-open Slot B-EQ Slot C-compressor etc. based on what plugins you use. There's also no problem with leaving an empty slot anywhere else either(which gives you a little buffer for moving things around)
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Re: Insert (plugins) order and Undo?
Thank you so much for the tips, the option+select trick is also very neat. I have already started using the slots as "placeholders" for different types of plugins.
Man, Pro Tools looked like a dinasour at first and the more I learn about it the more I feel like I was missing features that could have sped up my process recording and mixing. It is very well thought out. Also, what surprises me is the stability and speed. |
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Re: Insert (plugins) order and Undo?
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Option = happens on all tracks Option-shift = happens on all selected tracks This applies to inserts, sends, I/O, solo, mute, almost anything you do to tracks.
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Re: Insert (plugins) order and Undo?
There are 10 slots for inserts on tracks. Is this not enough room to move things around in?
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Re: Insert (plugins) order and Undo?
I think the OP's issue was that you can't pull a plugin out from say insert one and drop it between slot three and four if they're occupied. You have to move them around to free up the slot. I think it's a good idea.
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Re: Insert (plugins) order and Undo?
Yes but if you accidentally move one on top of another and blow it away it would be nice to undo it.
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