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Old 09-01-2010, 06:01 PM
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So I've recorded a few test tracks and love what I'm hearing but I had a buddy (engineer) tell me I should be doing things different..

What I did:
Doubled the acoustic tracks and hard panned them L/R...... Using a U87 placed towards the 12th fret.

What He Suggests:
He says "don't double the tracks --- place a Pencil mic on one side, and the U87 on other and hard pan those L/R" -- He says this will give me the same FULL-SOUND but better.

Should I give this a shot?

Both samples here:
http://zoobuzzmedia.com/printer/double.mp3
http://zoobuzzmedia.com/printer/single.mp3

Any feedback appreciated.
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Old 09-01-2010, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: Acoustic MICS... Second Opinion Needed.

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So I've recorded a few test tracks and love what I'm hearing
Stop.

Nothing more needs to be said, really.












ok...

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He says "don't double the tracks --- place a Pencil mic on one side, and the U87 on other and hard pan those L/R" -- He says this will give me the same FULL-SOUND but better.

Should I give this a shot?
Not going to hurt anything to try it and see what you like better. You might also combine the two; double mic AND double track.
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Old 09-01-2010, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: Acoustic MICS... Second Opinion Needed.

Indeed! If it sounds good, it IS good(or; if it ain't broke, don't fix it) But I absolutely would experiment if you have the time. You might get something even better. Remember also that its not just the mic(nothing wrong with a U87), but its the combination of mic/preamp/guitar/player and room acoustics.
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Default Re: Acoustic MICS... Second Opinion Needed.

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So I've recorded a few test tracks and love what I'm hearing but I had a buddy (engineer) tell me I should be doing things different..

What I did:
Doubled the acoustic tracks and hard panned them L/R...... Using a U87 placed towards the 12th fret.

What He Suggests:
He says "don't double the tracks --- place a Pencil mic on one side, and the U87 on other and hard pan those L/R" -- He says this will give me the same FULL-SOUND but better.

Should I give this a shot?

Both samples here:
http://zoobuzzmedia.com/printer/double.mp3
http://zoobuzzmedia.com/printer/single.mp3

Any feedback appreciated.
I use both of these methods with excellent results. If the acoustic has a pickup, use both the pickup and mic at the 12th fret. The stereo image from that one can be quite breathtaking with a well performed piece. All, and more, have their place.

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Old 09-01-2010, 09:35 PM
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Over the shoulder is nice on some things, too.
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Double tracking the guitar will be a very different sound than just micing it stereo. They're 2 different sounds for different purposes. I don't know why the engineer friend acted like you had to choose one and stick with it.

Double tracking will always sound bigger and thicker than the other method, but that may not always be what you want. If you're doing more acoustic based/singer-songwriter stuff, the micing in stereo method will sound nice, and give a little more dimension than just one mono mic panned in the center.
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nothing wrong with trying out techniques. but dont get in to a mode of continual searching for the "Promised Tone" or you will turn into Axl Rose
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I will occasionally place a Sony lapel mic in the body of the guitar to add interesting harmonics. This is of course combined with standard mic placement on the outside (occasionally at the bridge). Watch for phase angles.
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