Mac Pro 5.1 for PT 2018?

[danieleither]

I'm currently using PT10 HD3 on a Mac Pro 3.1 8-core system. It runs pretty well provided I stick to mostly DSP plugins. I do like using a LOT of plugins in my work and I find it won't cope with many native plugins and runs out of memory easily, despite the system having 32gb. I believe PT10 can only utilise 4gb so this may be the reason why.

I've been considering upgrade to a PT12 or newer HDX setup for a while now (mostly due to the offline bounce and track rendering functionality) however I also understand that the newer tech will handle native plugins more efficiently?

I will also upgrade the MAC. I despise the cylindrical shape of the newer 6.1 Mac Pros so I'm considering a used 5.1 system and would be grateful if people could advise what spec I should be looking for? e.g. 6-core of 12-core? Is 3.46GHz processor enough? Is 32gb enough memory or should I be looking at 48gb / 64gb / 96gb etc?

With regards my usage, I'm a home-studio producer working on my own music only. Only recording a few tracks simultaneously, most of the time tracking one track at a time. Mixture of analogue tracks and virtual instruments 50/50 and typical track counts 35-50.

What I'm looking to achieve is to be able to use a lot more native plugins (e.g. Soundtoys, Izotope, Waves) rather than be restricted to the Avid DSP plugins even though they are excellent.

[tclash]

I am running 2018.12 (regular) on a Mac Pro 4,1 that I flashed to a 5,1. I also recently upgraded the processor to a 6-core 3.46GHz and have 16GB of RAM. I haven't come anywhere near maxing it out, even on a 90 track mix with tons of plugs. This was at a 44.1 sample rate, and I use a fair amount of UAD plugs. But still, it was only hitting about 25% of CPU usage. I also use a lot of Soundtoys/Waves.

I came from PT10 HD Native... It seems like between 10 and 2018 they really optimized plugin CPU usage.

If you don't mind tinkering, you could probably find a 4,1 for cheap and then flash/upgrade. It was not at all difficult to swap out the CPU and the X5690 I put in was only $100.

[KV626]

Originally Posted by tclash

If you don't mind tinkering, you could probably find a 4,1 for cheap and then flash/upgrade. It was not at all difficult to swap out the CPU and the X5690 I put in was only $100.

Might be worth reminding that a 4,1 requires delidded CPUs. Although far from impossible, that's an extra step that needs to be taken with caution... A "true" 5,1 is a very simple upgrade by comparison.

[tclash]

Originally Posted by KV626

Might be worth reminding that a 4,1 requires delidded CPUs.

The single CPU in 4,1's, like mine, doesn't need to be delidded. That's just the dual CPU models. Mine was a super simple swap.

[ProtoolsLover]

Originally Posted by KV626

Might be worth reminding that a 4,1 requires delidded CPUs. Although far from impossible, that's an extra step that needs to be taken with caution... A "true" 5,1 is a very simple upgrade by comparison.

Delided only for dual 6 core CPU’s

Deliding CPU’s is insanely easy.

[the.engineer]

I run a 2010 5,1 Mac Pro (see my profile for specs) and I’m bugged by a GUI lag that is driving me insane. I’ve just upgraded to 2018.12 on 10.13.6 and it’s still there. Avid know about it but that’s as far as they’ve got. Otherwise the 5,1 Mac Pro’s with the 3.46GHz 6-core are awesome.


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[ProtoolsLover]

Originally Posted by the.engineer

I run a 2010 5,1 Mac Pro (see my profile for specs) and I’m bugged by a GUI lag that is driving me insane. I’ve just upgraded to 2018.12 on 10.13.6 and it’s still there. Avid know about it but that’s as far as they’ve got. Otherwise the 5,1 Mac Pro’s with the 3.46GHz 6-core are awesome.


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You need to upgrade your video card.

[the.engineer]

Originally Posted by ProtoolsLover

You need to upgrade your video card.

Hey ProtoolsLover, I have an AMD Radeon R9 280X 3072MB. That is upgraded...isn't it?

[ProtoolsLover]

Originally Posted by the.engineer

Hey ProtoolsLover, I have an AMD Radeon R9 280X 3072MB. That is upgraded...isn't it?

I just googled that card and there seems to be a lot of issues with it due to power supply needs.

I can tell you that a 4.1 to 5.1 12 core MacPro with a comparable video card slays it. I don’t remember which Video Card I chose (will check when I get gone) but it enables me to run 2 34” ultra-wide monitors and I have zero issues graphically, and the computer screams. 31k Geekbench Scores.

[the.engineer]

Thanks for the info, would love to hear which graphics card you're using.

I did have an issue with power cables but got it sorted.