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Old 03-21-2022, 04:12 PM
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Is the Pan Depth setting in Pro Tools a global thing, or is it on a session by session basis?

I've wanted to experiment with this, but wouldn't want to memorize panning laws for every session I've ever done if I have to come back to it.
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Old 03-21-2022, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: Pan Depth/Law questions

I would try them all and pick what sounds best to you(but I do believe its session by session, so use session templates that are set as desired, and/or stick a Post-It along one side of a monitor to remind you to choose the setting you want. Personally, I prefer the -4.5 option
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Old 03-21-2022, 04:52 PM
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Is the Pan Depth setting in Pro Tools a global thing, or is it on a session by session basis?

I've wanted to experiment with this, but wouldn't want to memorize panning laws for every session I've ever done if I have to come back to it.
It's a setting *in* the Session Setup... so not following why you think it could be global. Play away...
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Old 03-21-2022, 05:25 PM
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It's a setting *in* the Session Setup... so not following why you think it could be global. Play away...
Thanks for the reply! Makes total sense and that's what I was thinking, but wanted to double check because I feel like I saw a handful of people on other forums referring to Pan Laws as "Global", similar to that of the "Preferences", even though it's in the "session Setup" area, so thought I would ask.
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Old 03-21-2022, 05:26 PM
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I would try them all and pick what sounds best to you(but I do believe its session by session, so use session templates that are set as desired, and/or stick a Post-It along one side of a monitor to remind you to choose the setting you want. Personally, I prefer the -4.5 option
Cool! Thanks for the reply! I appreciate it!
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Old 03-21-2022, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: Pan Depth/Law questions

Nice topic. Because I know nothing about it. I pan, that's it.

How would I perhaps benefit from playing around with it? Dave, what is good about -4.5 do you think?
Mixing old stuff is mostly what I do these days, so this might be the time to learn about digital panning.
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Old 03-21-2022, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: Pan Depth/Law questions

Article on it:

https://www.soundonsound.com/sound-a...ing-should-use
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Old 03-21-2022, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: Pan Depth/Law questions

I don’t understand what that article is trying to say.
Or, he’s just wrong.

For example: if you have a signal in the left balanced correctly, and now you pan it into the centre, it will now be lower by the amount of the pan law setting.
But you’re LISTENING to that and will adjust your balance accordingly.

What pan law is attempting to do is to provide for the same apparent level as you MOVE a signal (via panning) through the center.
If you have fixed stereo positioning pan law is essentially irrelevant.

Here’s a better article

https://www.fullcompass.com/gearcast...t-panning-laws
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Old 03-21-2022, 08:24 PM
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Here is an ever better article.

https://www.harmonycentral.com/artic...ing-laws-r501/
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Old 03-21-2022, 08:29 PM
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OK. Forget it.

I see this is going nowhere.
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