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Old 07-25-2002, 07:30 AM
jaceever jaceever is offline
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Default reverb while tracking

I'm sure this has been answered, but.... I cannot hear busses or plug-ins on a record -enabled track. I know this is true of low latency mode and it seems a small price to pay, but is there any work around.

I record a lot of different vocalists many of whom prefer a wet mix in the phones while tracking.

Any thoughts (besides by a TDM system)?

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Old 07-25-2002, 08:17 AM
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Default Re: reverb while tracking

Route output or audio tracks you want to record with real-time effects to an aux track then use effects and sends (to a separate reverb aux) on that aux track. Use Low Latency Monitoring and enjoy the reverb/effects live as you are recording. I usually move the effects and sends back over to the audio track once I finish recording. It blows clients away to hear themselves in a auditorium while sitting in my 10x10 room. With stereo reverb to boot! R
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Old 07-25-2002, 08:28 AM
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Default Re: reverb while tracking

Thanks rlcowa,

I'll be on the road for the next 10 days but when i get back to Nashville you can bet you boots I'll be trying that. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-25-2002, 11:02 AM
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Default Re: reverb while tracking

I've never used the low latency monitoring mode. I think the mode actually operates at 128 samples anyway. So put yer hardware setup to 128 and record away. No extra routing necescary. Works for me!
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Old 07-25-2002, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: reverb while tracking

Keny,

Wow! How do you get away with it. I'm using 24 tracks of Audio several stereo Auxs and at least one plug-in per track. (Technically there are several tracks with no plug-ins, but when using two RenVerbs, a True verb, several C4 and C1 combos, plus a Master fader with Rencomp, and L1 it do add up!!!)

i get crashes out the wazoo at 128. Of course I mix as I track, doing edits and cleaning as i go.

Thanks for the tips guys...

jace
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Old 07-25-2002, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: reverb while tracking

I avoid using plugin's while tracking as I really want to hear exactly what I am recording. I also don't insert a master track until the mixing session begins. I figure if i try to get it sounding as good as possible without plugin's it'll sound even better with em'.

I do use reverb to appease the drummer though, and sometimes I'll use eq and compressor here and there to get a desired sound.

Once the drums are recorded, I will minimally use plugins on the drumset to get it in check with the band, espescially HPF's and some light compression on the snare.

When I finally mix the session, I pull all the faders down remove anything I added and start from scratch. I wait until I get a 9093 (usually when I add the C4 and L1+ on the master fader and then I increase the latency to 512 or 1024.

It sucks to use the high latency settings when you are in the edit window though so i usually doctor all the regions first using the rough mix, before any final mixing.

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Old 07-25-2002, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: reverb while tracking

I used to set up Aux. tracks for effects, now with Waves 3.5 I just apply them direct to the vocal tracks. I usually track with RenVerb set at REVERB -4.7 and WET 27 on the Hall 1 setting. It is going to depend on your vocals, mic, preamp. etc though. If you haven't upgraded to 3.5 it is a must. Far more efficiency. I never use low latency monitoring. You may need to upgrade your computer to a newer AMD system 1.4ghz or higher too.
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Old 07-25-2002, 02:15 PM
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Avoid using heavy CPU plugs on the Master faders it adds alot of latency. Apply them when mixing down.
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Old 07-29-2002, 09:52 AM
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Default Re: reverb while tracking

Thanks for all the insights and tips. I must agree that Waves 3.5 is a quantum leap in efficiency.

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Thanks everyone!
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