Weird solo behavior

[lclyman]

For some reason the standard soloing behavior is not working at all on one of my sessions.

If I choose SIP as my solo mode I'm unable to solo anything...literally nothing will solo at all. If I change solo mode to AFL then I can solo as expected except solo safe dose not work...if I command click on an aux track solo button, the track volume fader appears...

I tried option, command clicking on all the solo buttons and then, when in SIP mode, pressing a solo button on any track mutes the entire mix.

SIP in all my other sessions work as expected..

Very, very odd..

Does anyone have a clue as to why this has happened?

Thanks,
LC
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2018 mac mini- macOS monterey 12.6, 3.2 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i7, 32 gb ram, PT 2022 10.0

[nednednerb]

I have a clue. You might not have tried all the standard troubleshooting steps.

That's not just to throw it back to you. Prefs get messed up, etc, keyboard might be wonky, or got water on it, and a modifier held down.


These questions are so random because you system info and steps already undertaken are absent:

https://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=300050

[lclyman]

Originally Posted by nednednerb

I have a clue. You might not have tried all the standard troubleshooting steps.

That's not just to throw it back to you. Prefs get messed up, etc, keyboard might be wonky, or got water on it, and a modifier held down.


These questions are so random because you system info and steps already undertaken are absent:

https://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=300050

Not to just throw it back to you either, but my system specs were clearly stated at the bottom of my post. My keyboard is literally brand new and I did describe what steps I took to try to investigate including clearing modifier key settings.

In any event, thanks for your response..

LC

[Rich Breen]

Originally Posted by lclyman

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If I choose SIP as my solo mode I'm unable to solo anything...literally nothing will solo at all. If I change solo mode to AFL then I can solo as expected except solo safe dose not work...if I command click on an aux track solo button, the track volume fader appears...

I tried option, command clicking on all the solo buttons and then, when in SIP mode, pressing a solo button on any track mutes the entire mix.

...

I don't think there's anything broken or inexplicable here: Without seeing your session it's hard to know for sure, and it could certainly be something else, but this would be consistent with: Somewhere along the way you accidentally hit opt-cmd-solo on a track; that solo-safed all tracks, and would cause the 1st behavior. Then you "tried option, cmd clicking all the solo buttons" and now solo-ing a track does indeed solo it but the rest of the mix mutes; that also sounds like correct behavior. Perhaps you're routing your mix to/through auxes or a print track which was previously solo-isolated (so you could hear your mix) and in cmd-opt-clicking solo you've un-safed tracks that need to be solo-safe to hear your mix?

Hope that helps

[lclyman]

Originally Posted by Rich Breen

I don't think there's anything broken or inexplicable here: Without seeing your session it's hard to know for sure, and it could certainly be something else, but this would be consistent with: Somewhere along the way you accidentally hit opt-cmd-solo on a track; that solo-safed all tracks, and would cause the 1st behavior. Then you "tried option, cmd clicking all the solo buttons" and now solo-ing a track does indeed solo it but the rest of the mix mutes; that also sounds like correct behavior. Perhaps you're routing your mix to/through auxes or a print track which was previously solo-isolated (so you could hear your mix) and in cmd-opt-clicking solo you've un-safed tracks that need to be solo-safe to hear your mix?

Hope that helps

Hi Rich,
That's actually very helpful...thanks..

I'm back to using PT after many years away and I'm certainly rusty with my kb shortcuts... and as you correctly postulated I am routing my mix through auxes as well as a print track.

That being said, might there be a step by step way to get back to the default solo behavior?

Thanks again,
LC

[Rich Breen]

Originally Posted by lclyman

...might there be a step by step way to get back to the default solo behavior?

Thanks again,
LC

I think you're seeing correct/default solo behavior. Just solo-safe the aux tracks you're routing through (and fx returns) and you should be good to go.

[lclyman]

Originally Posted by Rich Breen

I think you're seeing correct/default solo behavior. Just solo-safe the aux tracks you're routing through (and fx returns) and you should be good to go.

Well I tried what you described and still I can only hear tracks when in either AFL or PFL mode. When in SIP, soloing anything has no sound. I've removed solo safe from all tracks and then solo safed every possible aux that receives anything...no joy...!!

To be fair, this was the first session since returning to PT that used a more complex routing as well as folders (routing and otherwise), and it's quite possible I inadvertently did something that either can't be undone or corrupted something in the session. Subsequent sessions with similar routing and organization work as expected. I'll take some comfort in the mix sounding good, learn and move on...

As an aside, I was using both Reaper and Luna extensively prior to my switch back to PT and in Reaper the soloing behavior is so intuitive by default that one rarely has to ask for any assistance using it. Incredible coding in that DAW..

Thanks again for your assistance.,
LC

[Ru_C]

Originally Posted by lclyman

For some reason the standard soloing behavior is not working at all on one of my sessions.

If I choose SIP as my solo mode I'm unable to solo anything...literally nothing will solo at all. If I change solo mode to AFL then I can solo as expected except solo safe dose not work...if I command click on an aux track solo button, the track volume fader appears...

I tried option, command clicking on all the solo buttons and then, when in SIP mode, pressing a solo button on any track mutes the entire mix.

SIP in all my other sessions work as expected..

Very, very odd..

Does anyone have a clue as to why this has happened?

Thanks,
LC
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2018 mac mini- macOS monterey 12.6, 3.2 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i7, 32 gb ram, PT 2022 10.0

I'm having exactly the same issue on all my session since upgrading to PT 2222.10.0

Nothing is working as it has done for the last 15 yrs solo wise. Has something big changed that I missed?

[Ru_C]

Originally Posted by Ru_C

I'm having exactly the same issue on all my session since upgrading to PT 2022.10.0

Nothing is working as it has done for the last 15 yrs solo wise. Has something big changed that I missed?

..ok, think I've figured out one of the issues. The latest PT Ultimate has switched Solo behaviour to AFL that was previous set as SIP...my sessions have always been SIP, but when loading in an old session, *or* a template created with an older version, 2022.10.10 changes the solo behaviour...