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Old 05-06-2023, 08:42 PM
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Default Control App Eucon group select varies every time

Hi,

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2023.3.0
Control App
Version: 2022.12.1.153
Eucon
Version: 2022.12.1.34
Eucon Version: 4.10.3.34
Avid Artist Mix

Through the app control, I have created an eucon command that selects the tracks in a group (select tracks in groups then group list).
In the images you can see that when pressing the command several times the selection of channels varies.
Is this is the normal behavior of the command through the app or a bug?
Thanks,
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Old 05-07-2023, 06:26 AM
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Default Re: Control App Eucon group select varies every time

You should post pictures of the macro you made in EuControl. Posting pictures of the soft key and results doesn’t help in trying to figure out if there are any errors in your custom command.
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Old 05-07-2023, 08:50 AM
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Hi its2loud,
I selected this 2 Eucon commands: select tracks in groups, then group list.
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It's you're trying to select the tracks in a particular group then reverse the order of those commands in Eucon.

Like shown in this picture.
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Old 05-07-2023, 10:15 AM
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The problem with that sequence is it will first disable the group selected (I work with all groups enabled) and then it will send "select tracks in group" command, so you have to press the command again. Group will not be enabled, and the command will keep asking for a group to select.
Also, I have and artist mix and in this new sequence, sometimes groups selection are not consistent, if I have more than 8 tracks, at first banks the last 8 tracks, if I touch the command again it works randomly showing between the 8 last banked or sometimes the first 8, this behavior is not showed in the Control App.
I think the best workaround is to have those 2 commands independent.
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Old 05-07-2023, 10:21 AM
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The problem with that sequence is it will first disable the group selected (I work with all groups enabled) and then it will send "select tracks in group" command, so you have to press the command again. Group will not be enabled, and the command will keep asking for a group to select.
Also, I have and artist mix and in this new sequence, sometimes groups selection are not consistent, if I have more than 8 tracks, at first banks the last 8 tracks, if I touch the command again it works randomly showing between the 8 last banked or sometimes the first 8, this behavior is not showed in the Control App.
I think the best workaround is to have those 2 commands independent.
Can you explain what you’re trying to achieve? I’m not quite understanding the workflow.

Try disabling the preference “auto-bank to selected track" and see if that changes anything.
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Old 05-07-2023, 10:59 AM
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Workflow:
1. I want to select tracks in control app (all tracks are in groups)
2. Show those tracks in Artist Mix (it will bank the last 8 of the selection, I think it's by default).
3. Show those selected tracks in Edit Window in Pro Tools. I think also by default it shows only the last bank, so if I have 12 tracks selected it will show at the top of the windows only the last 4 tracks

I want to achieve that those 12 selected tracks show in Edit Window when I push the command in Control App
The random behavior that I refer of, was found while trying to achieve this workflow.

If I disable “auto-bank to selected track" then the Artist Mix won't follow the Control App
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Old 05-07-2023, 11:29 AM
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Ok. Thanks for the clarification. This sounds like the long approach to alternatively working with folder tracks or VCA’s. Either of those will give you a spill function for the tracks you’re trying to bring into focus in PT and on the surface. Alternatively, you can work with layout on the surface.

I assume you have “Edit Window Follow Bank Selection” and “Mix Window Follows Bank Selection” checked in Pro Tools Prefs>Mixing?

Also having “Always Fill Channel Strips When Banking” checked might affect this workflow.

I’m not quite sure if what you’re trying to do with Selects Group Tracks is going to get you what you’re desiring here.
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In my workflow I prefer Folders to VCAs, but either way it will spill only those tracks in Artist Mix.
I think that's the only way.
Pro Tools Prefs>Mixing are checked
I have checked "Always Fill Channel Strips when Banking"
But you have given me an idea and I can work much faster scrolling to Folders, I've created a Scroll to track command with a Key input with the name of the folder.

Do you know if Eucon Commands can be combined to open a specific folder?
I tried:
1. Eucon>track menu>scroll to track
2. Key>name of folder\n (200ms initial delay)
3. Eucon>navigation>folders>toggle folder (500ms initial delay)
But in this case if I start while a folder track is select and press the command, it will do steps 1 and 2.
But for step 3 it opens the folder where I start the command and not the one selected by the scroll to track command.

Thank you very much its2loud for your time.
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Old 05-08-2023, 09:14 AM
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Default Re: Control App Eucon group select varies every time

This does appear to be a bug as the "Scroll to track" is not attention-ing the track in Eucon and the track needs to be attention'd in order to activate the toggle command.

One workaround is the replace the Eucon "toogle folder" command with the key command SHIFT+F. This will toggle the folder for you just the same after scrolling to the track.
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