Is this normal?

[siga]

Hello everyone, i was a mac pt7 user for 2 years and i just built my quad pc and im starting to test it...now something started to happen that i dont know why, im runing pt le 7.0 via the digi002 (straight from mic to 002) now when recording an instrument via the mic if I clip while recording i can see the RED area of the PT meter as im clipping, but when playing it back the meter just stops at zero (Only green) and it does not show any clipping (no RED), can someone please guide me to why this is going on? is this a bug ? did I clip? thank you

[albee1952]

The clip light is a warning that you have no headroom left but you still may have recorded an unclipped signal(although another db and it might have clipped the recording. My advice is to not record so hot. At 24bit(highly recommended) you can peak your input "meter" in the halfway to 3 quarters and maintain plenty of headroom without a sacrifice in quality or noise. Remember that digital is not like analog and you do not need(or want) to slam the input. In any case, I don't think anything is wrong here, just that you flirted with the ragged edge.

[siga]

thank you for your fast reply, i was recording at 48/24 and to behonest with you i did have the signal hot, it just seemed something is wrong becuase out of the 30 seconds that i recorded the hand drum i must have seen it go to red 8 or 9 times, but not a single clip while playback, but i think your correct and i will flow that tip on only going to 1/2 or 3/4 of the way....another thing that has bothered me if you dont mind (i also posted this on the quad thread) is that for some reason PT wont let me record at 44.1 k (all other freq work) any time i want to record a track the -6084 error shows up (i need to have a lowe hw buffer) i lower it and still no result (i searched on here and google with no luck) any idea on this? thanks again!

[albee1952]

That's an odd one. Try trashing your preferences folder.

[siga]

again thanks for the help, but that did not do it, this is realy making my mad, i want to record at 44 but it wont let me, anyone please know what to do here, thanks again!

[Kris75]

I am not sure how many samples over creates a clip in PT, but when you record you will always see PRE FADER metering, when you listen back, you may have it set to POST FADER, check that. You may not hear it because it might only be 5 samples (wich you should still avoid at all costs) Remember that there is 48 000 samples being taken every second(at 48k)....... Turn down your input, and if you are still getting odd transients that peak, but the rest of your recorded sound is to quiet, use an outboard compressor to "even out" the dynamics, or work on recording technique. You may know all of this already, so sorry if it is too basic. It is the same on a mac though, so I would check your metering prefs first.
In your first post you stated that you are on PT 7.0, you should go to at least 7.1 CS8 with the quad. I run a very similar set up to Shans (he built mine) and am running PT 7.1 CS8 with no probs what so ever.
Hope this helps, and the first advice to record only about 3/4 of the meter are very good. You will rid yourself of that "digital is harsh" stigma quite fast.

I should also note that if you are set to PRE FADER metering you will never see an over unless one of your plugs clip...Just an extra thought

Quad on Broski

[siga]

Kris again thanks for the help you provided and i will double check the post and pre fader...i cant find the cs8 update for 7.1 le on xp, i found cs10 and it did not reolve the issue for the 6084 error of not allowing me to record at 44k, i just dont get it ,why can i record at 48,88,96 with no issue but 44k is not allowed...

[siga]

guys maybe somone can guide me to how i can bring this issue to digidesign for help, my digi002 is not rigistered yet, can i still ask them a question regarding this issue? thanks for any help!

[siga]

albee and kris can you guys please explain if i need to folow the same recording tip while working wiht internal sofsyths or midi tracks (for example a kick track from a softsynth) would i still need only to record up to 3/4 of the way or its totaly different for internal reording, how about recording from external keyboard workstation? thanks again for the help!

[siga]

by the way guys i tired everything in the book to get pt to record or play ar 44k so far nothing, i just sent digi tech an email, im crossing my fingers,im praying for an easy way to fixing this issue.