double S1 vs S3 workflow

[BScout]

Originally Posted by Chevron

How do you feel about switching from the S3 to double S1s? Anything you miss?

I am currently weighing up the 2 setups.

One thing I am guessing, is that the S3 has a lot more dedicated buttons and easier to call up various settings?

Plus that 2nd row of knobs will be hella useful?

Nope. Don’t miss anything.
The assignable buttons on the bottom of the S1 takes care of a lot of needs. And the Dock covers everything plus more. (And the Dock encoders are more useful than the double encoder/channel on the S3.)

Also, I (and others) have had problems with faders or the OLEDs going out on the S3. Had multiple repairs. They are repairable which is useful but I’ve had zero issues with the S1/Dock with the hardware.

[Chevron]

Originally Posted by BScout

Nope. Don’t miss anything.
The assignable buttons on the bottom of the S1 takes care of a lot of needs. And the Dock covers everything plus more. (And the Dock encoders are more useful than the double encoder/channel on the S3.)

Also, I (and others) have had problems with faders or the OLEDs going out on the S3. Had multiple repairs. They are repairable which is useful but I’ve had zero issues with the S1/Dock with the hardware.

Thank you, that is very helpful.

[originalscottyg]

Originally Posted by Rich Breen

The inability to stack multiple S3s for more than 16 faders is what always held me back from them. As soon as the S1s became stable I jumped; currently at 3 S1s and a dock, but might go to a fourth. They do behave as one surface with full spilling of parameters.

I am also currently using 3 S1s plus a Dock. I bought 4 x S1s + Dock for my new room, but when I set it all up (Dock in the middle with 2 S1s on either side) I found it too wide to be practical. But I am on the shorter side and have short arms maybe? I feel like my current setup, 1 S1 on the left, then Dock, then 2 more S1s on the right, is the sweet spot for me. I use MultiMaster mode a lot and having all my VCAs on the left S1 that spill onto the 2 S1s to the right of the Dock is a great workflow. I do wish there was a way to have my plugins skip the knobs on my left S1 though. I find myself paging over to put the bands I want on the middle S1 quite a bit. And anytime I attention a new track, the plugin parameters jump back to the left S1, so I have to page over again. I'm sure I need to do some new programming and make new custom knobsets with this new setup and that should sort things out. I just haven't gotten there yet.

[BScout]

Originally Posted by originalscottyg

I find myself paging over to put the bands I want on the middle S1 quite a bit. And anytime I attention a new track, the plugin parameters jump back to the left S1, so I have to page over again. I'm sure I need to do some new programming and make new custom knobsets with this new setup and that should sort things out. I just haven't gotten there yet.

Fairly sure Avid will never introduce plugin parameter spill zones for the S1 (because that's an S4/S6 feature). But inserting a blank page of controls in custom maps should force everything 1 S1 over. (I'm assuming custom maps will allow a blank page)

[originalscottyg]

Originally Posted by BScout

Fairly sure Avid will never introduce plugin parameter spill zones for the S1 (because that's an S4/S6 feature). But inserting a blank page of controls in custom maps should force everything 1 S1 over. (I'm assuming custom maps will allow a blank page)

Thanks! That's what I was thinking. I've been extremely busy and haven't really had time to look at redoing my EuCon customization since I moved into the new room.