Digi 001 vs. M-Audio Delta 1010

[Jim B]

I am debating whether or not to go with the PT Digi 001 for my PC, or the M-Audio Delta 1010 with 3rd party software such as Cubase or Cakewalk. After reading through this newsgroup, the one thing that many seem to agree upon is that Pro Tools LE is not great software, and that the 001 hardware is not supported by many other software packages (if any). Because of this, I'm tempted to go with something like the 1010, which is supported by just about everything. The only real advantage that I can tell when it comes to comparing the hardware, is that the 001 has the two mic preamps, along with monitor outputs.

I will be recording mostly live audio (a band), so I'm not all that concerned with Midi or music creation. I just want the most stable, flexible, and powerful audio editing system for my home studio that I can get for under $1000. Anybody have any ideas on this?

Thanks!

[jim jedlicka]

Whoever said that pro tools software is no good is ignorant ,and they probably have never used it. It's seems to me that there is a simularity between pro tools users and third party users (cubase nuendo acid ect....) in the same way as mac and pc users. In other words ,alot of hot air exchanged between the 2 users ,and alot of the time not knowing the benifits of either machine or program. It's getting very immature and tiresome

[B.Ray]

Originally posted by Jim B:
...After reading through this newsgroup, the one thing that many seem to agree upon is that Pro Tools LE is not great software,...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">OK, I'll take the bait. If you took the time to really look around, you'll see most people are very happy with PTLE. They/we complain about limitations alright, but so does users of all software...comes with the territory.

For the record, PTLE/001 is a wonderful package for certain uses. For your needs, I think it would serve you well. Especially for the price.

For live recording, you'll need more mic pre-amps. People have reported good results with using a simple Mackie board in conjunction with the 001.

Good luck on your recordings.

[Bastiaan]

Protools is very very good for recording and mixing. That's why a lot of big studio's use protools. It may look like a simple interface, but the program can do a LOT. It is not that advanced in midi, and there are some issues on that matter, but since you say you only will use it for recording and mixin audio....thats a non-issue for you.

There is support for plugins, although not that big as for other programs or for mac, but the good stuff is there for us, and this is just the beginning. Digidesign is pushing the windows-platform....

Ofcourse this is not the place to ask for unbiased advice....but still...

[Jim B]

I didn't intend to insult anybody, or to start a debate. I just want to get some opinions before spending a lot of money.

[Bastiaan]

And i understood it as such, no worries. I just gave you my opinon. I think its a good thing to do some shopping before you're buying.

[jim jedlicka]

If I were you I would go to the library and look up issues of mix and eq magazine and read all the reviews you can .Some of that stuff is not posted on the internet.

[where02190]

Protools software is the industry standard. It's the hardware on the 001, D-A A-D converters that lack. In this department the Delta 1010 will smoke the 001, however, as you probably know, you can only use PT software with PT hardware.

Hope this is helpful.

[scardanelli]

Jim B, for recording, editing and mixing Pro Tools is the boss. Don't even consider anything else if you're not really bothered about midi. There are things you can do in PT - comping vocal tracks to name just one - which are SO much easier than in any other package I've used (and I've used them all).

As far as sound quality, well you can always add an external AD converter later, but in truth the overall sound is really not bad at all. Where do you stop? What are the surroundings in which you'll be recording? I don't know that you'll really be able to tell a great deal of difference if you record your band using good gear to start with.

And when you're tracking a band you really want software that is rock solid and plain sailing, not covered in a thousand coloured windows. I love the new Cubse SX, but I wouldn't use it to track a band if PT was in the same building.

Just my opinion.

Simon

[Jim B]

Thanks for the info. Is the quality of the A-D converters something that most users feel could be improved? I hadn't come across any posts mentioning that before. What makes the 1010 hardware better?