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Old 06-21-2021, 01:30 PM
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Default Can your restore Perpetual License after it lapses

I have the Protools 2020.3. I forgot to renew in February 2020 and when I went back to renew the only offerings were the subscription. I thought for a while there was a renewal for a lapsed license but the only ones I see available are for student versions

Is there a way to get back?
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Old 06-21-2021, 08:58 PM
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By all means, keep looking, but Perpetual Reinstatements (both Standard and Ultimate) are hard to find these days:
https://www.pro-tools-expert.com/hom...ber-of-dealers

Ouch! Option:
If you’re not happy to stay on PT 2020.3, you could sell your expired Perpetual license and buy a new one … I’m not 100% sure, but I think this price is pretty close to what the Standard Reinstatements cost:

US $450 - Avid Pro Tools Perpetual License with 1-Year of Updates + Support Plan
https://www.ebay.com/itm/20349759012...cAAOSwIgZeD1Zx

When buying on eBay, pay with PayPal (costs slightly extra)
PayPal will organise a refund, if you don’t get “what was advertised”

Please note - this Seller has 100% eBay Feedback after 712 Sales – and has been previously vouched for, here on the DUC
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Old 06-24-2021, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: Can your restore Perpetual License after it lapses

I have a perpetual license, and I stopped paying the annual renewal. To purchase upgrade renewal I must renounce my perpetual license. So, if I stop renewing in the future, I lose access to pro tools because I change my perpetual license? Would I be obliged to pay forever?
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Old 06-24-2021, 10:59 PM
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I have a perpetual license, and I stopped paying the annual renewal. To purchase upgrade renewal I must renounce my perpetual license. So, if I stop renewing in the future, I lose access to pro tools because I change my perpetual license? Would I be obliged to pay forever?
A Perpetual license is forever.

However, if you swap your Perpetual license for a 2-year Subscription – and then not renew it – you’ll be locked out of Pro Tools.
Easy to understand why holding on to a Perpetual license appeals to many – especially “now you can subscribe to Pro Tools on a month-to-month basis and access Pro Tools only when needed”
Avid Pro Tools Software - Monthly Subscription (automatic renewal – so you must remember to turn off “Renew” in your Avid Master Account)
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...omatic-renewal

Pro Tools and Pro Tools Ultimate Crossgrade FAQ
https://avid.secure.force.com/pkb/ar...ate-Crossgrade
Q: If I purchase a Pro Tools Crossgrade, what will happen to my license?
A: You will receive a subscription license (Pro Tools Subscription or Pro Tools Ultimate Subscription Bundle) that will give you access to the latest Pro Tools version available. This will require you to surrender a perpetual license.

Note: Once you surrendered your Perpetual License it will convert your license into a subscription. Once it's done it will be irreversible.


Q How much does it cost for me to Crossgrade?
A: The price will be discounted for the first two years of subscription.
• For Pro Tools, it will be $99 for Pro Tools Crossgrade from Perpetual 1-Year Subscription Paid Upfront and $9.99 for Pro Tools Crossgrade from Perpetual 1-Year Subscription Paid Monthly.
• For Pro Tools Ultimate, it will be $599 for Pro Tools Ultimate Crossgrade from Perpetual 1-Year Subscription Paid Upfront and $59.99 for Pro Tools Ultimate Crossgrade from Perpetual 1-Year Subscription Paid Monthly.


Q: How much will be the price after the first two years?
A: The regular (non-discounted) Avid Online Store price of Pro Tools 1-Year Subscription Paid Upfront, Pro Tools 1-Year Subscription Paid Monthly, Pro Tools Ultimate 1-Year Subscription Paid Upfront and Pro Tools Ultimate 1-Year Subscription Paid Monthly, whichever you have will apply upon the renewal of the Crossgrade subscription on its third year.



Current offer - Pro Tools Subscriptions - Music Software - Avid
https://shop.avid.com/ccrz__ProductD...00&cclcl=en_AU
Was: $299.00
Now: $199.00
1-Year Subscription, Paid Upfront (Download)
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Get access to all new releases, the Avid Complete Plugin Bundle, HEAT, UVI Falcon, and support




(*1) Would I be obliged to pay forever?


Yes
– if you want the latest version with a year of updates – Subscription or Perpetual – there’s an annual upgrade cost for both


(*2) Would I be obliged to pay forever?

No
- not if you hold on to your Perpetual license!



There is a standard 30 day grace period to renew your Standard Avid Support and/or Elite support contract:
https://avid.secure.force.com/pkb/ar...on-and-or-plan


Buying Pro Tools? Which Is Better, Perpetual License Or Rental Subscription
https://www.pro-tools-expert.com/hom...l-subscription
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Old 06-25-2021, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: Can your restore Perpetual License after it lapses

thanks for you help.

So, if I go back to the subscription (not crossfade) I can update for a year, and when the subscription expires I can keep using pro tools forever with the last update, right?
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I have a perpetual license ...
With a Perpetual license, you can keep using Pro Tools forever, at the last paid version in your Avid and iLok accounts. To keep this Perpetual license current/up-to-date does cost extra – there’s the annual Upgrade fee (Standard or Ultimate)




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... So, if I go back to the subscription ...
When the Subscription expires, you’re locked out of Pro Tools, until you start a new Subscription
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Confused occasional user here. I have both a Perpetual License as well as a Subscription.

If I'm following correctly, then as long I remember to renew my Perpetual License there is no need to also have a Subscription? It's also cheaper - $200/year for Perpetual vs. $360 for Subscription

Am I following this correctly? Or is there some added benefit to have a Subscription as well - perhaps additional support or free stuff?
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...If I'm following correctly, then as long I remember to renew my Perpetual License there is no need to also have a Subscription?
Correct – if it's all you need

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It's also cheaper - $200/year for Perpetual vs. $360 for Subscription
Current Subscription prices for Pro Tools Standard:
USD $299 1-Year, Paid Upfront (Download) – or
$29.99 1-Year, Paid Monthly (Download)


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... is there some added benefit to have a Subscription as well - perhaps additional support or free stuff?
The best support I ever got was free, right here on the DUC.

Avid’s USD $34.99 monthly Subscription will appeal to many who want access to all new releases, the Avid Complete Plugin Bundle, HEAT, UVI Falcon, and support – even if it’s just for one month for a special project.

Details here:
https://shop.avid.com/ccrz__ProductD...ew&cclcl=en_US

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