Possible for hardware insert to be post fader

[SteveGam]

Hi all,
Using a Dugan mixer and although I have a workaround I was still wondering if there is a way to make the hardware inserts post fader.

thanks,

Steve

[Nicolas Lowman]

I don't know that there is a way to make the HW inserts post fader.
If there isn't, a workaround if you have enough channels would be the following
Unassign your mics from the the stereo bus. Let's call these 1-8.
Use your microphone channels (1-8) to send to the direct outs, set the direct output post fader, patch the direct out of the channel to the FOH 1/4 TRS that is feedi g your Dugan.
Now go to the next layer down in the desk(say 25-32), patch the input of these channel to your FOH inputs from the Dugan. Make sure that these channels are assigned to he stereo bus, set the faders to 0 and leave these channels alone.
You will do all your mixing on channels 1-8. This is a roundabout way of getting there, but I think it is gonna be the only one that you will find.

Moderator if there is a way to change the HW insert point, please send my response to file 13!

Nicolas

[Sheldon Radford]

Nicolas beat me to it. There isn't a way to make the HW insert points post-fader, but the Direct Out pickoff trick works great.

Here's one simplification: rather than loop out/in through the physical TRS connectors, add eight simple plug-ins to the rack (such as a lightweight EQ3), route the Direct out of ch 1-8 to each plug-in, and return each plug-in's output to ch 25-32. Bypass the plug-ins so they're not inline. This approach essentially creates an internal loopback.

Sheldon

[Nicolas Lowman]

This is one of those instances where it would be very ideal to have the option to move the HW insert, as there isn't a really a good substitute for them.

They seem to pretty much be the cat's meow for discussions with multiple people.

http://www.dandugan.com/who-uses.html

[SteveGam]

Thanks for the replys. Just for the record I unassigned the channels from the ST bus and sent each to a group. Placed the Dugan on each group and sent to groups to L/R.

works like a charm and didn't need the groups for anything else



Steve

[kristianberg]

The problem for me is when I choose Post Fader for the Input Strip Fader Pickup Point, to be able to send Post Fader direct out to Dugan, I´m not able to send a Pre Fader to the PQ User Inputs. So I can´t send a Pre Fader - Post Mute to the musicians.
I have no more busses in spare.

Any solutions to this? - other than the possibility for hardware insert to be post fader, which would be great


Kristian