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Old 01-30-2014, 12:36 AM
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Default Manually played MIDI Notes arrive earlier than played.

I am pretty much ready to hurl this HDX system right out the window.

I'm running a 16 track 88.2 session with one virtual instrument (addictive drums). Buffers at 128 (lowest setting allowed by HDX engine). almost no plugins to speak of.

When I play MIDI drum notes from the keyboard (via the Digidesign MIDI IO) they SOUND fine while I am playing, but they are landing on the track about 120 ticks earlier than they should, universally. Then when I play back what I recorded, it sounds like a ****** retard just played the part. My timing is excellent on two instruments, it isn't ME. I have to play so outrageously behind the beat to get the notes to land where they should that it becomes nearly impossible to keep time.

But if I don't, they won't quantize properly because they are recording EARLY. Somebody has to be having this problem besides me. Damn this software.

This happens with every VI I have tried from boom to mini grand.
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Old 01-30-2014, 04:17 AM
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Default Re: Manually played MIDI Notes arrive earlier than played.

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I am pretty much ready to hurl this HDX system right out the window.

I'm running a 16 track 88.2 session with one virtual instrument (addictive drums). Buffers at 128 (lowest setting allowed by HDX engine). almost no plugins to speak of.

When I play MIDI drum notes from the keyboard (via the Digidesign MIDI IO) they SOUND fine while I am playing, but they are landing on the track about 120 ticks earlier than they should, universally. Then when I play back what I recorded, it sounds like a ****** retard just played the part. My timing is excellent on two instruments, it isn't ME. I have to play so outrageously behind the beat to get the notes to land where they should that it becomes nearly impossible to keep time.

But if I don't, they won't quantize properly because they are recording EARLY. Somebody has to be having this problem besides me. Damn this software.

This happens with every VI I have tried from boom to mini grand.
Hi,

I don't have the answer, but have you tried different routing to to see if there's a difference. are you recording midi onto an instrument track? have you tried a dedicated midi track routed to an instrument track and how about having the VI on an audio track and using a midi track etc.


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Old 01-30-2014, 05:26 AM
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Default Re: Manually played MIDI Notes arrive earlier than played.

Maybe check/toggle the MIDI delay compensation options in Preferences . . .
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Default Re: Manually played MIDI Notes arrive earlier than played.

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I am pretty much ready to hurl this HDX system right out the window.

I'm running a 16 track 88.2 session with one virtual instrument (addictive drums). Buffers at 128 (lowest setting allowed by HDX engine). almost no plugins to speak of.

When I play MIDI drum notes from the keyboard (via the Digidesign MIDI IO) they SOUND fine while I am playing, but they are landing on the track about 120 ticks earlier than they should, universally. Then when I play back what I recorded, it sounds like a ****** retard just played the part. My timing is excellent on two instruments, it isn't ME. I have to play so outrageously behind the beat to get the notes to land where they should that it becomes nearly impossible to keep time.

But if I don't, they won't quantize properly because they are recording EARLY. Somebody has to be having this problem besides me. Damn this software.

This happens with every VI I have tried from boom to mini grand.
Hi there, I'm having the exact same problem now with PT 11. Did you solve it? It's so weird.
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Old 10-06-2016, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: Manually played MIDI Notes arrive earlier than played.

Oooooh YES YES,I have same problem from protools7....... after record VI, I have to manually move the MIDI note.........
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Default Re: Manually played MIDI Notes arrive earlier than played.

Hey guys,

Have the same problem in PT 2018

Any solution?
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Default Re: Manually played MIDI Notes arrive earlier than played.

For reference: This bug still seems to exist in 2019.6...
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Default Re: Manually played MIDI Notes arrive earlier than played.

Hi all
Has anyone tried in PT’s preferences>midi tab enter in midi tick offset?
Plus or minus
OP said 120 ticks early so enter +120 ticks

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