source connect still the best remote approach?

[viaspiaggia]

Hi, looking to set up with a client in Nashville to be able to play back my 5.1 mix from my studio here and have the director listening in there, with picture in sync of course.

Is Source Connect still the go-to for this? Looks like they have moved to a stand-alone app and talk about connecting the Mac digital outputs to my PT, which would require reclocking, which of course costs more money. version 3.2 is still a plugin.

Also looks like no PTv9 support - which I think basically rules out the plugin version for me.

so, is there anything else out there, or am I stuck with SC?

Thanks!

adam

[Chief Technician]

The plug-in works with v9.0.2. We have used it both as a plug-in and standalone. The advantage with the standalone is that you do not run into a nasty RTAS bug where you will have pressed play but the other user will not be chasing. Using the standalone requires an LTC-->MTC converter of some sort to have both users be in sync on the timeline.

If you are worried about sample rate converting or clocking, there is a Behringer (yes, Behringer) box called the
ULTRAMATCH PRO SRC2496 that is great for use as an SRC converter between the Mac output and a Pro Tools input.

[MIKEROPHONICS]

Works with 9.03 nicely

There is a beta version I am testing where - oh dang, I shouldn't say....

SC works a treat - as does the behringer.

Your clients can also listen in on their ios devices (which they love) if you get source live too!

Jonathan - I am confused about the LTC to TC, why?
I use remote transport sync and all is accurate to 8 samples at both ends

cheers

[viaspiaggia]

Hmm, so the answer the the original question seems to be, there is not really a good alternative to SC.

That rtas bug sounds more like it just doesn't work. Is that random/unpredictable or does the remote chase just not work. Cause, that's kinda the point of the software, right?

Does the stand-alone work with 6 channels? It's unclear to me how or why or for what it's using the Mac output.

Sorry for all the questions, their site is sparse on info from what I could find...

And, thanks!

[MIKEROPHONICS]

Adam

It works a treat. Give it good internet and you are laughing.

Occasionally the rtas engine stops passing audio, but that is true of any rtas plug in in the tdm world.

If you want to remotely control the other ends PT session and have your software work out the offset to within 8 samples or so, then enjoy - if not you are into a whole heap of trouble. RTS is genius.

If you can't get a high bandwidth connection, you can get SC to ftp your remotely recorded audio into your session and sync it up for you whilst you earn money doing something else to earn money/be artistic.

Multichannel is not guaranteed to be phase accurate - the only way to do this is with dolby fax and a whole heap of cash. It can be done, but you will need a fast upload speed. T3 at least.

YOu can run the software as an rtas plug in - easy.

or you can run it as a stand alone piece of software for which the mac audio is the way to get audio in and out of the software. this is to get around the rtas bug (which is a pro tools issue not a source elements issue). This is a bit like the difference between isotope RX2 and rx2 standalone.
There is also another method, but that is beta at the mo so I cannot disclose.

time for bed

[Chief Technician]

Originally Posted by MIKEROPHONICS

Jonathan - I am confused about the LTC to TC, why?

How else would you convert LTC from your SYNC peripheral to TC that can be sent by the standalone application? If you are using the plug-in this is not necessary.

[viaspiaggia]

eh, for my needs, there must be an easier way. All I need is video and an aux input on their end, and my protools session to feed that aux input. No recording, nothing all that complex, but I DO need 6 channels sent and talkback returned, and of course sync. Maybe that's asking a lot, but it doesn't feel like it is.

I basically need iChat theater or SyncVue but with live PT and surround.

Luckily this particular project is lots of short chunks - I can probably get away with sending them a session, getting notes, re-printing and uploading updated mixes as quickly as possible...

Any other thoughts welcome of course!

[MIKEROPHONICS]

Hi Jonathan

Standby for a call from Anne at Jumbuck in London.
I hope we get a chance to work together.

I have always used the stand alone with RTS and PT and the RTS/Rewire combo does it's thing.

Cheers

[Chief Technician]

Originally Posted by MIKEROPHONICS

Hi Jonathan

Standby for a call from Anne at Jumbuck in London.

When?

Originally Posted by MIKEROPHONICS

I hope we get a chance to work together.

I work as the chief technical engineer at Nutmeg, so I do very little session work. We may end up chatting, but it's unlikely I will be the one behind the console during a session.

Originally Posted by MIKEROPHONICS

I have always used the stand alone with RTS and PT and the RTS/Rewire combo does it's thing.

How do you get the position (timecode) of PT into the stand alone?

[Jimmix]

Protools, RTS and the Source-Connect Standalone are fully supported and the user experience is almost exactly the same as using the 3.2 rtas version except your audio goes to and from your optical i/o instead of the rtas engine.