VCA automation overwriting original volume

[Henchman]

We have been having a problem where tracks in a VCA group are being overwritten with the VCA automation being written inverse on a channel in the group.

Anybody's else seen this?

[Brent_Sydney]

Its intentional behaviour so on replay you hear what you heard during auto record.
Say youre ramping the vca up and latch a slave fader on at a fixed position, for it to play back at a fixed position it would need the inverse of the vca move written to it - so when they're summed they cancel out and make a flat playback.
Is that what youre seeing?

[Marco Bernardo]

I'm not in front of Protools right now, but if you CAN put the VCA in TRIM mode, I think it will not overwrite the line automation.. but as I said, I'm not in front of a Protools DAW to replicate the behavior. If my memory don't trick me, it will appear a blue line in the Group VCA. This in Auto Latch or Auto Touch.

[jacko]

if you use "write" in both vca and normal tracks, then it makes sense

[Henchman]

No. The problem s that fr some reason, an entire track will be written over frm beginning to end with inverse VCA moves. So everything that is up, is down.

[Brandonx1]

So you pull a VCA up and the track volume lowers?

[MIKEROPHONICS]

That should be fairly obvious if you don't coalesce trims - ouch it would be painful.

[Brent_Sydney]

As I said earlier, if you are putting a slave fader into write and leaving it flat for the duration of your vca writing, its intentional behaviour so it cancels out and plays back flat, as you wrote it...

[cjguitar]

Yeah, I've only seen this if you grab both the master and the slave at the same time. Usually I put the slaves in Touch/Trim and put the VCA in Latch and write from there.

[Henchman]

Originally Posted by cjguitar

Yeah, I've only seen this if you grab both the master and the slave at the same time. Usually I put the slaves in Touch/Trim and put the VCA in Latch and write from there.

I'll see if that's what he was doing.