Pro Tools 10.2 HD Native on Mountain Lion, Successfully working!

[saproduction]

i took the risk, did a fresh install of mountain lion, and its been working with no problems. i'm actually liking it better than lion.

[studiojimi]

and TDM...LOL LOL

[aaquilato]

How can you be HD Native and TDM?
Please explain as I'm trying to figure this out.

I have an HD3 PCI system.
I have PT9HD on a SL 10.6.8 partition and it rocks fast and furious.
I have PT10HD on a L 10.7.4 partition and it is a dog. Slow and sluggish.

Native? What do you mean by that?
Have you bypassed the TDM engine? How may I ask?

I want to do that and take advantage of the maximum delay comp as well as the floating point engine.

What's your secret?
AQ.

[Mixchump]

I think you'll find that in 10.7.x, ProTools will not run properly, and crashes all over the place unless you boot with 32Bit kernel.

If you're running Chimera / EasyBeast, I haven't found a way to make the SUDO command stick for permanent 32Bit bootup, so you have to hit a key during the backwards progress bar and put in "arch=i386" in order to be in 32Bit mode. I think you find then, that ProTools works great in Lion.

Mountain Lion is perma 64Bit, and even though apps can run 32Bit, for some reason, ProTools HD-TDM is not happy in that world. Therefore, I can't see a stable TDM system under Mountain Lion.

[JFreak]

Originally Posted by Mixchump

Mountain Lion is perma 64Bit, and even though apps can run 32Bit, for some reason, ProTools HD-TDM is not happy in that world. Therefore, I can't see a stable TDM system under Mountain Lion.

I'm one happy camper using HD3 with ML (zero problems so far, if you don't count that in the first start PT didn't find all Waves licenses for some reason, but 2nd launch and ever since everything has been perfect)

[JFreak]

Let's make that one problem that I just found. Sonnox EQ AAX version does not install. I bet it's because I have an EQ+GML license and the installer is looking for plain EQ license and it's dumb enough to not recognize the GML-enabled version of the license.

But that's all. I've used ML since it was out. PT 10.2.0 seems to love it.

EDIT:
Seems that there is nothing wrong with the Sonnox EQ AAX itself. Sonnox support just forgot to include that one required license to the bundle, thus everything began to work as expected as soon as they fixed it. So I'm back in "zero problems" status

[Delta Music Belgium]

Originally Posted by Mixchump

Mountain Lion is perma 64Bit, and even though apps can run 32Bit, for some reason, ProTools HD-TDM is not happy in that world. Therefore, I can't see a stable TDM system under Mountain Lion.

I have HD6 Accel + Magma PE6R4-i + PT HD 10.0.2 + Mac OS 10.8.0 ML, it works fine.

I also had the same system working fine with PT HD 10.0.2 + Mac OS 10.7.4 SL + the 64 bit kernel

And I also had the same system working fine with PT HD 9 + Mac OS 10.7.4 SL + the 64 bit kernel


BTW, making Mac OS 10.6 or 10.7 stick to the the 64-bit kernel is possible, this is the way to do it:

- to select the 64-bit kernel for the current startup disk, use the following command in Terminal:

sudo systemsetup -setkernelbootarchitecture x86_64

- to select the 32-bit kernel for the current startup disk, use the following command in Terminal:

sudo systemsetup -setkernelbootarchitecture i386

Note: This setting is stored in the Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/com.apple.Boot.plist file and will take effect every time you start up from this disk. If you start up from a different disk, the setting on that disk, or the hardware default, will take effect.

[Delta Music Belgium]

Originally Posted by aaquilato

How can you be HD Native and TDM?
Please explain as I'm trying to figure this out.

I have an HD3 PCI system.
I have PT9HD on a SL 10.6.8 partition and it rocks fast and furious.
I have PT10HD on a L 10.7.4 partition and it is a dog. Slow and sluggish.

Native? What do you mean by that?
Have you bypassed the TDM engine? How may I ask?

I want to do that and take advantage of the maximum delay comp as well as the floating point engine.

What's your secret?
AQ.

In PT 10 every PT HD TDM system is always TDM and Native. In the Playback Engine choose HD TDM and you have PT10HD, choose any other engine (one of the built-in audio's or Pro Tools Aggregate I/O if you want to use your Pro Tools interface) and you have PT 10 Native.

This is always the case if you bought PT10HD, because then you have both the PT10HD and the PT10 Native license on your iLok.

BTW, the PT 10 software for HD and Native is identical, it's only the license that determines the available choices (HD TDM and/or native engines) in the Playback Engine

[JFreak]

Originally Posted by Delta Music Belgium

BTW, the PT 10 software for HD and Native is identical, it's only the license that determines the available choices (HD TDM and/or native engines) in the Playback Engine

Not entirely true.

Yes it's the same software. Yes you can open HD features on lesser hardware if you have HD or CPTK license, BUT... you still need HD hardware for access to HD interfaces, and the interfaces dictate some choices.

[Delta Music Belgium]

Originally Posted by JFreak

Not entirely true.

Yes it's the same software. Yes you can open HD features on lesser hardware if you have HD or CPTK license, BUT... you still need HD hardware for access to HD interfaces, and the interfaces dictate some choices.

It is just plain obvious that you need HD TDM hardware to be able to use PT10HD. This is the Pro Tools HD section of the DUC, so I think you may assume this is common knowledge to the readers...

But is does not seem to be common knowledge that you can run PT10 Native when you have PT10HD (and thus PT HD hardware)