Creating a crowd from a few voices

[TL4500]

Hi.

Could someone please tell me how to create a "thousand" voices from a few in Pro Tools 10. I spotted one thread in Google that pointed to a YouTube tutorial that mentions vtl plug in "CLONE" but I am at work and entertainment/streaming sites are blocked.

Thanks,

T

[crizdee]

Originally Posted by TL4500

Hi.

Could someone please tell me how to create a "thousand" voices from a few in Pro Tools 10. I spotted one thread in Google that pointed to a YouTube tutorial that mentions vtl plug in "CLONE" but I am at work and entertainment/streaming sites are blocked.

Thanks,

T

Hi,

I think you'll struggle to make a few voices sound likes thousand! Waves doubler and Antares choir jump to mind, but there's no substitute for multi tracking different people. Tracking at different speeds can help to make it sound like different voices. Reverbs and delays help a lot.


Chris

[albee1952]

Chris is right on the money. Some more tricks that can help; duplicate the track several times, then use Elastic Audio to stretch things randomly. Use Elastic Pitch to alter the pitch randomly. The idea being to make the audio different on each track to avoid phasing sounds. Creating a thousand people....probably not going to happen, but creating a roomful....reasonable. Now if you GOTTA have thousands, go online and search for sound effects and crowd noises. I had to mix a live recording where the engineer never bothered to check the audience mics. Guess what didn't work.....sound effects to the rescue

[ACP]

I once had to do this with only myself and another guy. We didn't manage quite a thousand people, but definitely a gymnasium or theater kind of ambience. What we ended up doing was getting a couple dozen clips of us talking with various mics and standing at different distances from the mic. As previously mentioned by another user, we pitched some of them and time stretched others. Apply different HP and LP filters to tracks to make them unintelligible. Make sure loop points are different between tracks and there are no really attention-grabbing lines and it will be tough to tell that anything is looping.

[Carl Kolchak]

In addition to the above, try taking a Murmur Track, and modifying this technique to suit.

[YYR123]

Yeah - sound bundles are a good choice

I have fxpansion's clap o meter it's fun to use - I used it in a track to give it a live alive feel

[Sonopolis]

QuikQuak Crowd Chamber looks right for you, though it's VST. Maybe report back on how it works.

[tj_davies]

Originally Posted by TL4500

Hi.

Could someone please tell me how to create a "thousand" voices from a few in Pro Tools 10. I spotted one thread in Google that pointed to a YouTube tutorial that mentions vtl plug in "CLONE" but I am at work and entertainment/streaming sites are blocked.

Thanks,

T

What exactly do you need? thousand voices shouting one thing - clear and comprehensible? Or just walla walla?

Timothy

[Roland Clarke]

Originally Posted by Sonopolis

QuikQuak Crowd Chamber looks right for you, though it's VST. Maybe report back on how it works.

I took a quick look at their site, there were numberous demo's, I thought all of them were "enderwhelming" to say the least. The crowd one, just washed around in a very unpleasant, phasey way. Obviously YMMV.

[ondruspat]

Yea, need a little info for the type of crowd noise needed. For general crowd mayhem maybe just sample in between songs of your favorite live CD. (I'm trying to remember who recorded a faux "live" CD using crowd noise from Kiss Alive II....)