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Old 06-08-2011, 03:28 PM
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Right Wild Honey. if he thinks reducing the volume affects his dynamic range, then he didn't read my long post about levels very carefully.
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FWIW, simply trimming down the levels of your tracks doesn't reduce your dynamic range. i.e. if the original range of your acoustic guitar track went from, say -50dBFS to -1dBFS, you have 49db of dynamic range in that track. If you trim it down -12db, your range is now -62dBFS to -13dBFS; still 49db of dynamic range.
The dynamic range of 24bit audio is 144dB. If you trim level down you loose information in the lower part of that range. I will agree that loosing some of that can be ignored, because noise level is always far higher than -144dBFS.
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The dynamic range of 24bit audio is 144dB. If you trim level down you loose information in the lower part of that range. I will agree that loosing some of that can be ignored, because noise level is always far higher than -144dBFS.
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Oy. . . .
Of course if you talk about dynamic range in musical terms, as a difference between the loudest and the quietest parts of an instrument, you are absolutely right. I am talking about this definition of dynamic range:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_range
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Jacek, please reread my post about levels. Your signal has noise in it that is above the noise int he system. This is what you're missing. The dynamic range wont change if you trim 12db.
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Jacek, please reread my post about levels. Your signal has noise in it that is above the noise int he system. This is what you're missing. The dynamic range wont change if you trim 12db.
I already said that in one of my previous posts, so I can't agree with you more :)
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I don't see any reason not to run Pro Tools in the way it was designed to run.
From PT manual: Green indicates nominal levels; Yellow indicates pre-clipping. Where do they say you should run everything at pre-clipping levels?
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From PT manual: Green indicates nominal levels; Yellow indicates pre-clipping. Where do they say you should run everything at pre-clipping levels?
Green indicates nominal levels; Yellow indicates pre-clipping (–6 dB below full scale); and Red indicates clipping.


yellow in ProTools 9 is 12dB below full scale, not 6dB
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The meters on Logic - now THEY'RE a joke......
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Hit out at Dave Pensado. This guy must be completely hopeless to some of you!
http://youtu.be/jofMNLoyUZs

He doesn't have this mysterious hidden clipping, he's got the visible one!
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