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Re: June update - hybrid info
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For example you have a favorite native only reverb plugin set up on its own Aux track, and you will be sending to it, from multiple other tracks as you record them ....As I note in the video whenever you put a track into DSP, any associated downstream tracks will auto switch to DSP BUT if that track is in DSP Mode safe that track will not go into DSP and the reverb will stay working Or same thing for when you have your preferences set to automatically put tracks into DSP when the "Input Monitor" or "Record" button is engaged, any downstream track in DSP Mode Safe will still have it's Native plugins work
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Re: June update - hybrid info
That makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.
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Re: June update - hybrid info
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Interesting, and surprising quite counter-intuitive. If channels can be put into DSP Mode without input monitoring or record arm activated, I would have thought as many native plugins could be used before DSP plugins as you like, as the audio would be streaming from the hard disk and could be delay compensated for upon playback. Perhaps its a limitation of AVB with Carbon. Using DSP and Native plugins together is possible with HDX in its current form, it just costs additional voices. It might also be possible with the new hybrid engine, who knows.
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Re: June update - hybrid info
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What you are wishing for ("thinking") isn't how it works. HDX does that. Hybrid mode doesn't. HDX will still exist for a reason even when Hybrid is available.
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Re: June update - hybrid info
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Wishing probably isn't the right word. Wrong... perhaps... But even then, the main issue I personally have with HDX isn't the lack of DSP during tracking, it's the inability to harness native power during mixing. My HDX1 card has been sitting on the shelf since 2019 as a result, in favour of a HD native card.
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Re: June update - hybrid info
I might be misunderstanding... you can use Native plugins with HDX just fine during mixing. What's the hold up?
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Re: June update - hybrid info
I'll be happy with any update, as long as it fixes Tab To Transients! Tried editing a bass line tonight... might as well got out my razor and scotch tape like the good old days. :)
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Re: June update - hybrid info
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Voice usage is just fundamentally different in HDX compared to native. As an exacerbated example, thirty 7.1.2 aux channels with a single native plugin on each use 0 of the available 384 voices in HD native, while it will use all of the available 256 voices in a HDX1 system due to the DSP-based mix engine. You can get around it to a degree by using only DSP plugins on aux channels... but you only have a limited amount of DSP too. I think it is the single most limiting factor of HDX, and presumably why the hybrid engine and DSP safe mode for aux channels was introduced.
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EDIT: Just watched the video again and reflecting on how Auxes receiving from busses on DSP enabled tracks are also automatically switched to DSP mode. For me this is really going to highlight the lack of good AAX DSP reverbs!
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My self I happen to use an outboard hardware reverb as an insert so it's Aux track stays in DSP
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