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Re: Upgrade from PT11 to PT12 Cost
I'm so confused!
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Re: Upgrade from PT11 to PT12 Cost
Guys, I'm just the messenger. If you don't believe me, read the FAQ on the website.
I agree that it's outrageous and stupid, and I hope a lawsuit can be brought against them. |
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Re: Upgrade from PT11 to PT12 Cost
Well this part is confusing. I get that PT 11 users have until 12/31/15 to sign up for the new annual subscription plan. Fine.
So I read this is the FAQ: Quote:
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Ummmm...which is it Avid? Please clarify??
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A Subscription lapses and stops working when you stop paying. Pretty clear
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Oh, okay...I see now. Wow...this is confusing! All this jargon to learn!
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It's like they made it soo confusing we would give up and jump in Anywhere I look there is confusion galore. Hundreds of posts asking the same thing in different ways and still can't understand why it needs to be written so damn convoluted Best Regards Christopher
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Re: Upgrade from PT11 to PT12 Cost
So here is a bit of twisted logic... but try it on...
IF: There really is no resale past this year then the idea of "equity" kind of goes away. This changes the Ownership/Rent/Subscribe equation (all IMO of course)... So lets say you have PT11 - do nothing (possibly sell it if you can!) ! If not... When the next big thing comes out (or now if you want 11) - subscribe either yearly or monthly. If you don't use it all the time (as in every month) 10 months of subscription is the same price as subscribing yearly. And yearly subscribing is only $100 more than maintenance (YES - only $100 more!!!)! So since you get the first year maintenance in the initial $899 it takes 7 yes SEVEN years to break even between buying (which you possibly/likely can never sell) and Subscribing. So there is my take - SELL your PT Vanilla licenses while you can! Are you SURE you will even be using PT Vanilla in 7 years??? I'd also wager that you can buy iloks with a frozen license (Perpetual license with lapsed support plan) in 2016 for pennies on the dollar....
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Re: Upgrade from PT11 to PT12 Cost
The way I read it is, $299 annually gets you everything... updates, support, upgrades to new versions etc... (for vanilla), or you can pay Monthly for the same.
And this could be started anytime... next year... or in two years... or in three years... Correct? |
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Short answer in response to your "That CANNOT be right.... doesn't make ANY sense" comment is ... It IS right .... and ... it DOES make sense to Avid. Avid will from now on have 'guaranteed' steady income regardless of how much they do in the way of introducing new features and fixing existing bugs. You'll pay $199 per year (or $599 if your a HD licence owner) instead of a similar fee as a 'one off' every time an upgrade is issued (in recent history every 18 months to 2 years). If you don't join the support plan scheme your existing licence will continue to work, but will become unupgradable. In that case, if you wanted to update at some point in the future, you'd either have to pay $899 to buy a new licence, or you could go down the rental route (monthly or annual subscription). If you go the rental route, that licence would stop working if you stop renting. Whether you buy or rent a new licence, you'll still have your old licence too, version frozen in time forever. You may be able to sell it, or you may not be, it depends on the exact licence. Note that 'at this time' as Avid puts it, you cannot sell a licence that has been upgraded to the new support plan regime, presumably be ause they haven't made arrangements to transfer however many days are left in a support plan from one person to another. That may change in the future, but on the other hand, it may not. As well as a money grab, its an attempt to kill off the market for 2nd hand licences.
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Re: Upgrade from PT11 to PT12 Cost
No. I don't buy that at all
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