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Old 08-05-2002, 09:33 AM
Jose A Lugo Jose A Lugo is offline
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Default Recording Vocals

I would like to now any tips or trick to keep my vocal recording blending in with the music w/o it sounding hollow and away from the music.
Please remember I'm new to recording.
If you will like to hear some of the recordings that I have done please feel free to see my site at: www.myjolin.net
Please advice on how to improve the sounds and vocals.
Thank you [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 08-06-2002, 12:09 AM
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Jose,

I listened to your clips...Your vocals are pretty burried in the mix but that is just my opinion. If I were you, I would work on sitting the vocal on top of the mix.

1st. Eq your instruments so that they all have their place in the mix...pull out the strong points of each and emphasize keeping in mind it does not take too much......

2nd. I would place a compressor on the vocal keeping the ratio at about 3:1 cutting of 4-8db. Then increase the output of both the compressor and track to makle up for what you lose.

Below is an excerpt from a mixing guide...
For those of you who have an easier time visualizing the audio spectrum in one-octave increments (like those found on a graphic equalizer), here’s an octave look at the same chart. Easy-To-Remember Golden Rules Of EQ

1. If it sounds muddy, cut some at 250Hz.

2. If it sounds honky, cut some at 500Hz.

3. Cut if you’re trying to make things sound
better.

4. Boost if you’re trying to make things sound
different.

5. You can’t boost something that’s not there
in the first place.
31Hz Rumble, "chest"

63 Hz Bottom
125Hz Boom, thump, warmth
250Hz Fullness or mud
500Hz Honk
1KHz Whack
2KHz Crunch
4KHz Edge
8KHz Sibilance, definition, "ouch!"
16 KHz Air

good luck...
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Old 08-07-2002, 07:15 AM
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Default Re: Recording Vocals

hmm. Thats a really good guide.
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Old 08-07-2002, 01:03 PM
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Default Re: Recording Vocals

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Originally posted by Rock_Artist:
I usually send the 2nd mic (room mic) to send as auxilry in PFL mode (pre) to the reverb to get the vocal "in the mix".
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Why PFL?

I recently tried re-recording a POD guitar part by putting a room mic up and sending the track (soloed) through my monitors. I recorded the "ambience" on a new track. It definitely made a big improvement in the "space". I'm not clear on why you would need it to be PFL if you want to send it to the reverb aux, tho'.
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Old 08-07-2002, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: Recording Vocals

Thank you for the advice I'm going to try the two microphone technic, where should I locate the mic in the room, [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img] but I would like to know what the letters PFL mode mean.
Thank you guys, I really appreciate the help.
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Old 08-07-2002, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: Recording Vocals

Quote:
Originally posted by Jose A Lugo:
Thank you for the advice I'm going to try the two microphone technic, where should I locate the mic in the room, [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img] but I would like to know what the letters PFL mode mean.
Thank you guys, I really appreciate the help.
Sincerely[LIST]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">pre fade listen
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Old 08-07-2002, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: Recording Vocals

i've experimented with recording the vocal in the "control room" with audio coming out of the monitors...
depending on what you're trying to achieve, might help

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Old 08-08-2002, 12:35 AM
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When you record the vocal after you've recorded the players try recording using 2 mics.

1. A "direct" mic for the singer the VOX track.
Usually a nice condenser would do the job in acoustic enviorment.

2. A "room" mic to produce the "in the mix" feeling of the vocal spreading in the room.

if you record the entire musicians except of the vocal at single-take,
You can try putting a microphone in the spot where the vocal will be and add the "room" from the with the musicians feeling.

Mix-Stage,
Try sending the instruments to auxs and put a Reverb to create some sort of a "location".

I usually send the 2nd mic (room mic) to send as auxilry in PFL mode (pre) to the reverb to get the vocal "in the mix".
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