SSL AWS 900+ & D-Command conflict

[sonicboost]

I'll explain the problem first and then list what we've got below.

I'm trying to add our D-Command (just the master section) to our setup with our SSL AWS 900+. Want to use the D-Command master section to the left of the SSL just to be able to have better tactile control of plug-ins. The D-Command maps EQ and dynamics so well, and the plug-in control on the SSL leaves a lot to be desired. The SSL is using the HUI protocol while the D-Command is Ethernet. No problem having them both work at the same time. Problem is that the SSL will only show whatever the 8 faders that are banked on the D-Command, and then repeats them again across 9-16 and 17-24. I don't care whether the 2 consoles bank together, thats not a problem. I just can't get 24 linear channels to display together across the SSL until take the D-Command out the setup.

I have already contacted SSL support and they are saying its an AVID issue.

Any help or suggestions of things to try are welcome. I have not yet tried just connecting our 16 fader expansion console yet. Going to get another Ethernet hub today so I can try that. Thats not a good long term solution due to space though. .... unless I just left it connected in another room? hmmm.... sounds like a practical joke in the making though doesn't it?

SSL AWS 900+ v2.0/13 - using MIDI connection, not Ethernet
D-Command firmware version - 8.0.0.314 master section (we have the 16 fader section as well in storage)
Pro Tools HD3 8.0.4
MacPro 2x3GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon w/11g RAM
Mac OS 10.6.6

[Roll]

It is the same with every non-ethernet controller combine with a d-command, in both sens ( an 8 faders HUI controller, with a 24 D-command, only 8 are available on the D-command). Did you try to be always in custom fader mode ?

[sonicboost]

I tried custom fader mode. Still only shows the same 8 repeated on the SSL. Thanks for the idea though.

[Brandonx1]

I think you should look at the nochturn and automap. It let's you, touch sensitively, control plug ins in any map you want. If it where me, I'd give up the SSL and jump on the d-command train tho. Some much more you can do with it then control plug ins. VCA spill, ect.....

[sonicboost]

We have the Nocturn. Use for EQ. No way I'm "giving up the SSL". This is about making great records, and the SSL sounds incredible. That would be a laughable downgrade. I just like the way the D-Command maps EQ and Dynamics plug-ins so flawlessly. We UPGRADED from the D-Command to the SSL for the purpose of the sound man. Its quite dramatic.

[Brandonx1]

Originally Posted by sonicboost

We have the Nocturn. Use for EQ. No way I'm "giving up the SSL". This is about making great records, and the SSL sounds incredible. That would be a laughable downgrade. I just like the way the D-Command maps EQ and Dynamics plug-ins so flawlessly. We UPGRADED from the D-Command to the SSL for the purpose of the sound man. Its quite dramatic.

Hi Eric,
I see your point. I would just never control pro tools with hui. The icon is 100 times better controller.
Best

[sonicboost]

I agree. I just wish I could have the best of both.

[sonicboost]

upgraded to PTHD 8.1.1 and upgraded firmware on D-Command to latest 8.1.0.515
Still only banking in repeated sets of 8 on the SSL. I also tried connecting the 16-fader expansion pack in hopes that might allow me to see in banks of 24 on the SSL. No luck there either. We're going to try the Ethernet upgrade to the SSL next and see if that gives us any other options. For now, I'm still just checking the D-Command in and out in the Ethernet tab of the peripherals when I want to use the EQ/Dynamics controls. The Novation leaves a lot to be desired for plug-in control, and the SSL is worse.

[Bill Denton]

I've resisted as long as I can, and I do appreciate how this problem could effect a whole lot of things on a business level, but...

Trying to make a D-Command play nice with an SSL AWS 900+.

We should all have such problems!