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Old 12-21-2020, 10:17 AM
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Default Re: So, no renewal. We stay at 2020.

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I , for one, have never had ANY of the issues that any of you complain about, and we invoice A LOT. Some people love complaining instead the obvious un sexy solution we came up with a decade ago.....
Dear "Capt Kirk",

I am 100% sure that the problems that I wrote about you had and do.
You don't see them or you don't want to see them.

I can even prove it to you !!!!

I have a minimum of 30 installations from small to very large systems based on Apple Computers and Avid / Pro Tools in Germany in a city where 90% of TV production and a whole lot of other manufacturers (music, advertising, movies, etc.)

For this I have my own private system from Pro Tools.
There are actually 3 different Pro Tools sets due to Apple computers.
Only one is the reliable Pro Tools 4.1.1 TDM + Power Macintosh 9600

In the + - 20 years, I only used the help of Digidesign / Avid twice.
It's quite possible that I know more about the various versions of Pro Tools than Avid itself, because many people don't work there anymore, and they created this Pro Tools myth. Now new employees are just cutting coupons from this myth. This means that they take money from us for something that does not work properly and will not work.

You know for what?
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Old 12-21-2020, 10:28 AM
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Default Re: So, no renewal. We stay at 2020.

Maybe back in the day... oh well, better stop here


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Old 12-21-2020, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: So, no renewal. We stay at 2020.

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I have been a Pro Tools user for 22 years (from version 4.1.1. TDM to 20.11.0.157)

My license ends on December 23rd, 2020.

It won't extend because the same mistakes have been around for years.

Avid has been unable to fix known bugs for many years.
There are many mistakes.

And I pay all the time.

For what? For your experiments?

This makes Pro Tools unusable.
Example:


Activity Monitor> Pro Tools QuickTime Server (Not Responding)
Pro Tools> Freezes after a while.

Pro Tools> Finished
Avid Link> Finished
Activity Monitor> AvidAppManHelper - (Still active !!! Processes are running in the background. Why?)

If you want what I doubt, please try to fix it by 12/21/2020.

This is your last chance, dear Avid.

And for something like that, I can Renewal Pro Tools Update & Support Plan
€ 214.20 1-year software updates + support plan RENEWAL unfortunately only pay 5.00 euros. Unfortunately not more.


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I , for one, have never had ANY of the issues that any of you complain about, and we invoice A LOT. Some people love complaining instead the obvious un sexy solution we came up with a decade ago.....
I too have never had any of the problems Digiface is talking about and I don't have a firebreather of a system - check out my profile - there's a link to it in my sig file. Regularly running 60+ track sessions at 256 buffer in 2020.11 and zero issues. I guess some people complain just because they have to have something to complain about. Those types are never satisfied.
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Old 12-21-2020, 12:20 PM
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Dear musicman691

I don't think it's what you wrote.

And I know I can prove it to you.

Let's start at the end.

1. Turn on your Apple computer.
2. Activity Monitor> AvidAppManHelper
3. Is it active or not?
4. If so, why?

Ps. 1. I don't need anything for myself.
The fact that I am writing here is on behalf of my clients who have their privileges at Avid and cannot afford to write here about things as they are.

I hope you got me right.

I must admit that I myself used this privilege once myself.
For which I am very grateful to Avid.
I saved $ 50.
And I didn't mean the $ 50, but a special situation that was not my fault.
What Avid agreed with and agreed with me.

What would I like to achieve?
I'd like to kick Avid's ass to make a difference in the various positions at this company.
What can all benefit from. Also you.
And I hope this will save the Avid and Pro Tools that I have been using for + - 20 years, but privately only 0.01% !!!.

If I am wrong, you will keep playing as usual.

Ps. 2.
Your working system is just for you.
For a specific configuration.
Any change causes problems.
I'm right ?

I have several such systems. They work almost 90%.
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Old 12-21-2020, 04:20 PM
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Dear musicman691

I don't think it's what you wrote.

And I know I can prove it to you.

Let's start at the end.

1. Turn on your Apple computer.
2. Activity Monitor> AvidAppManHelper
3. Is it active or not?
4. If so, why?

Ps. 1. I don't need anything for myself.
The fact that I am writing here is on behalf of my clients who have their privileges at Avid and cannot afford to write here about things as they are.

I hope you got me right.

I must admit that I myself used this privilege once myself.
For which I am very grateful to Avid.
I saved $ 50.
And I didn't mean the $ 50, but a special situation that was not my fault.
What Avid agreed with and agreed with me.

What would I like to achieve?
I'd like to kick Avid's ass to make a difference in the various positions at this company.
What can all benefit from. Also you.
And I hope this will save the Avid and Pro Tools that I have been using for + - 20 years, but privately only 0.01% !!!.

If I am wrong, you will keep playing as usual.

Ps. 2.
Your working system is just for you.
For a specific configuration.
Any change causes problems.
I'm right ?

I have several such systems. They work almost 90%.
Having trouble making sense of what you write. I checked and AvidAppManHelper is NOT running.
What do you mean by 'privileges at Avid?
I've done many changes to my system and no problems but then again I know what I'm doing and take care to have backups in case things go wrong.
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Old 12-21-2020, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: So, no renewal. We stay at 2020.

My current subscription ends at the end of the month and I just reinstated an older PT 11 perpetual license to a current plan for the year. I'll have to evaluate the state of things when it's time to renew in a year. I'm thinking of mixing in Cubase since I use it for production, but for mixing I prefer the PT workflow and tight integration with my Dock and S1 setup.

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Old 02-12-2021, 09:59 PM
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My current subscription ends at the end of the month and I just reinstated an older PT 11 perpetual license to a current plan for the year. I'll have to evaluate the state of things when it's time to renew in a year. I'm thinking of mixing in Cubase since I use it for production, but for mixing I prefer the PT workflow and tight integration with my Dock and S1 setup.



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Hey just my thought,I use Nuendo with a Dock & S1 and it works great, so if that is putting you in the fence about Cubase, you’ll be happy with it and EuCon integration
Plus the”Control” room is very cool with a Dock... but I use Pro Tools as well so I’m a Happy camper


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Old 02-13-2021, 04:36 AM
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Default Re: So, no renewal. We stay at 2020.

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My current subscription ends at the end of the month and I just reinstated an older PT 11 perpetual license to a current plan for the year. I'll have to evaluate the state of things when it's time to renew in a year. I'm thinking of mixing in Cubase since I use it for production, but for mixing I prefer the PT workflow and tight integration with my Dock and S1 setup.

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For my part, after enjoying Cubase, I'm with Studio One. I hesitated out of prejudice. Studio One is absolutely extraordinary. ARA2 much better than Cubase, clip gain like PT, integration of consoles 1 and fader of Softube, plus 1000 things that belong to it and that are nice surprises. Subscribe to Sphere for cheap. Famous.
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Old 02-13-2021, 05:05 AM
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Subscribe to Sphere for cheap. Famous.
Soo ... whats famous? Sphere?? A pretty middle of the pack mic that depening on a computer to work like Slate VMS which both ”trying” to sound like original mics which they sure as heck dont! We tried and used our original mics and none of them come close. So you can subscribe to anything but pretty worthless when you stop paying as you dont have anything to show for other than a lot of wasted cash. Buy a real mic and own it and touch it and USE it.
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Old 02-13-2021, 05:08 AM
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^ what he said.

Quality is created or lost in the beginning of the chain and only finalized in mastering. Not talking about composing or artist here, but the technical chain starts from mic, continues with preamp and AD conversion. That is where you make it or break it. There is a reason why some mics and preamps cost a heart and kidney
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