Pro tools and m-audio torq won't open at the same time-HELP?

[deezlee]

pro tools won't open when torq is open and torq won't open when pro tools is open.

a popup window says that protools or torq quit unexpectadly

mac g5 dual 1.8 with 2G ramosx 10.9.4

so far i tried:
-opening them in a different order
-installing 10.4.9 manually (not through the updater)
-fixing permissions (after i did that, pro tools takes like 3 tries to open - it cycles through finding the files a coupla times, then stays open) but no luck

any ideas? (i'm on a deadline for a mixtape project)

thanks in advance,
noahd