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Re: Defragging external hard drive?
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Hi Andre,
In don´t know if you have worked with SCSI disk on a Mac, but it is nearly impossible to first-initialize a ´general off the shelve´ SCSI disk with the Apple OSX DiskUtility. You need a third party software to get the HD acknolwedged and formated. I nearly stopped using SCSI drives under OS X, since Apple has thrown nearly every obsticle in my way there possibly is. This is where FWB comes into play. It´s the only SCSI formatting Software to first-initialize a new SCSI Disk. The funny thing is: once it has a HFS+ filsesystem, OS X has no problem whatsoever with it. So you can re-initialize the drive for optimal performance with DiskUtility. Since you jumped on the usage on FWB for what was, in my expierence, out of context to the quote you referred, to. is that elaborated enough? regs
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Thanks Mindnoise,that pissed me off little too.
No need to try to make others feel stupid.................
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HI Matt,
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And the fact of moving diskblocks around without a backup can surly not be considered SAFE. And I do not believe - I know. There also seems to be a great HYPE about Speed- and Defrag tools, still. They had their usage in the old computer days, but are becomming obsolete with the new Operating Systems and HDs. Today these apps are merely a gesture to serve those old habits. And lots of people mess with their diskblocks just for the sake of it because of some simple instinct to ´keep the house clean´. You can compare it like this: Norton is to Micromat and Alsoft what a butcher is to a surgeon. They both forgot more about HFS(+) than Norton ever knew. The reason why it worked well with you is that you always had ´sausage´ problems and no ´heart transplants´, so you can call yourself lucky to never have any severe problems. And you can´t tell how many problems you encounterd with your software are actually generated by it during earlier use. Messing with diskblocks actually becomes more disadvantageous these days as the OSes are more self-maintaining these days and journaled File systems are a step further that road. So I just tried to shed some light on this issue and all I really say is: take care! best
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Degramenting is only efficient when reading sequential information, like a single file at a time on a very slow drive, (when loading a big application on the internal drive for example).
DAW data is different : when pro tools is reading 32 tracks at the same time, it has to read and buffer fragments of every track anyway. So chances are that consolidating data files on the drive by defragmenting will have no effect whatsoever on performance The only case that could be a problem is if every file is scattered in very little pieces; This only happens on recent drives when it is so full that the internal management firmware has to fill in all the available spaces. When you reach that point, degramenting will be a very lengthy process, and even a dangerous one as it has to move around data in a very inefficient way, with risks of overheating if the disk is not properly ventilated.
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ABSOLUTELY STAY AWAY FROM NORTON
but I have posted about this topic before for finding how to truly defrag without only defragging the directory (Disk Warrior) and without copyin from one drive to another and back again. I ended up buying TECHTOOL PRO 4 from what I heard on the posts that it generally seemed useful. So far it works great for me. Can take a long time, but I've used it on multiple audio drives I use for pro tools for a couple months now with absolutely no problems
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Now then, "elaborated enough?" I'd say it was plenty.
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Sukks2bu (damn that's clever!) wrote:
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Almost forgot, here's a wink right back at ya.
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