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Old 02-12-2022, 12:08 PM
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Serato Pitch 'n Time Pro.
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Old 02-12-2022, 11:29 PM
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The best outside Serato's whalloping price tag is iZotope Radius. That's in either Adobe Audition or iZotope RX.
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I was surprised to read this 2006 iZotope press release…

“X-Form is a high-quality AudioSuite plug-in that delivers professional time stretching and formant-correct pitch shifting with professional results for music production, sound design, and post production. X-Form is based on the iZotope Radius time-stretching and pitch shifting algorithms.”


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Old 02-13-2022, 03:45 AM
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If you want Pitch n Time at a cheaper price, the le version is the same high quality engine, as far as I understand. You can only perform one task at a time, whereas the Pro performs several in the same pass.
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XForm processes like it's using a 2006 processor.

Kind of hard to believe PnT is still the best after all this time but that's probably why they can command the price.
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XForm processes like it's using a 2006 processor.

Kind of hard to believe PnT is still the best after all this time but that's probably why they can command the price.
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Old 02-15-2022, 02:17 AM
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I was surprised to read this 2006 iZotope press release…

“X-Form is a high-quality AudioSuite plug-in that delivers professional time stretching and formant-correct pitch shifting with professional results for music production, sound design, and post production. X-Form is based on the iZotope Radius time-stretching and pitch shifting algorithms.”


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Interesting. I just did a A/B/C comparison with XForm, Adobe Audition CS5.5 and RX9, all settings set the same. The challenge was to drop a song mix 5 semitones, time staying the same, no formant shifting. I honestly couldn't tell any difference between all 3 once I'd set audiosuite to multi-input mode (in mono mode the imaging was all over the place).

I seem to remember discussion here that you can't set parameters of X-Form when using it in TCE mode, which is why it doesn't get a good reputation as whatever settings it uses aren't very good for general purpose use.

I tried IRCAM's pitch shifting (among many others) and it's very good at small changes, but anything above a couple of semitones and its markedly worse than Radius. Amazing that after all this time, Radius is still competitive - only Serato beats it, and that's old too.
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When I kicked it up to 96k, Waves' good ol' Soundshifter sounded best.
I've actually found Soundshifter to be handy from time to time. Interesting about your observations with using it 96K.

I mean, I run my sessions at 96k standard just so whatever pitch or time stretching I do the algorithms will have more data to work with to produce better quality transformations. You just pretty much reinforced what I think I understood about the process.
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The original "gold" Waves plug-ins seem incredibly underestimated today. Waves contracted with the top DSP developers in the world which is probably a lot of why they were so expensive.
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