A recommendation when you've just installed PT10

[Jux deLuxe]

Due to a shutdown glitch (picked up somewhere over many months by my streamlining efforts --probably user error) I decided to restore my original cloned setup back to my internal SSD. (Thanks Albee 1952, you saved my bacon with that sage cloning advice a year ago.)

Anyway, after the installation I saw I had 55.1 GB on my (C:) partition --Microsoft calls it the (C:) drive but it's really a 'partition.' Since it's a 110GB drive, that's a lot of computer real estate tied up. I've come to understand that the entire Microsoft Recovery system is a crock. It hogs about 12 GB of precious real estate, and is non-functional if you delete (uninstall) wart & carbuncle programs --games,etc-- present in the initial MS Windows 7. (There may be ways to get it working again after these de-installations but who gives a tinkers damn?)

So while chasing the shutdown glitch I discovered on U-Tube ways to eliminate the (D:) partition and incorporate those GB's into the (C:) partition.

After I did it my available (C:) space jumped to 74.3 GB of 111 GB total!!!! Very worthwhile. I recommended this tactic to everybody it makes sense for.

For those who would like to do this also, here's your strategy & path.

First, stop Windows from using recovery and delete all previous data (restore point info) from the general controls:

Rt. click computer> system properties> configure> select turn off system protection> hit 'delete all restore points'> apply

Next, again rt. click computer> management> under storage hit computer management> rt.click the (D:) partition> in the pop-up window select delete volume> This changes the graphic representation of the previous display to 'unallocated.' Next rt. click the (C:) partition & select 'extend volume.' The "extend volume wizard" pops open. Follow the simple instructions and hit finish. Yesiree, you have now extended the (C:) partition GB's by incorporating the former (D:) partition into space Pro Tools can utilize.

Be confident, and go forth, children of Earth.

JUX

[Zarabozo]

Originally Posted by Jux deLuxe

Due to a shutdown glitch (picked up somewhere over many months by my streamlining efforts --probably user error) I decided to restore my original cloned setup back to my internal SSD. (Thanks Albee 1952, you saved my bacon with that sage cloning advice a year ago.)

Anyway, after the installation I saw I had 55.1 GB on my (C:) partition --Microsoft calls it the (C:) drive but it's really a 'partition.' Since it's a 110GB drive, that's a lot of computer real estate tied up. I've come to understand that the entire Microsoft Recovery system is a crock. It hogs about 12 GB of precious real estate, and is non-functional if you delete (uninstall) wart & carbuncle programs --games,etc-- present in the initial MS Windows 7. (There may be ways to get it working again after these de-installations but who gives a tinkers damn?)

So while chasing the shutdown glitch I discovered on U-Tube ways to eliminate the (D:) partition and incorporate those GB's into the (C:) partition.

After I did it my available (C:) space jumped to 74.3 GB of 111 GB total!!!! Very worthwhile. I recommended this tactic to everybody it makes sense for.

For those who would like to do this also, here's your strategy & path.

First, stop Windows from using recovery and delete all previous data (restore point info) from the general controls:

Rt. click computer> system properties> configure> select turn off system protection> hit 'delete all restore points'> apply

Next, again rt. click computer> management> under storage hit computer management> rt.click the (D:) partition> in the pop-up window select delete volume> This changes the graphic representation of the previous display to 'unallocated.' Next rt. click the (C:) partition & select 'extend volume.' The "extend volume wizard" pops open. Follow the simple instructions and hit finish. Yesiree, you have now extended the (C:) partition GB's by incorporating the former (D:) partition into space Pro Tools can utilize.

Be confident, and go forth, children of Earth.

JUX

Not the best idea to disable System Recovery. It's not the kind of recovery you get from a drive image, it's a different thing. It keeps record of changes during software installation and registry changes and it's generally able to save you a lot of time when you have a sudden issue with a program or a virus.

For example, let's say you get a virus from a malicous software today, and tomorrow you notice you're getting a lot of popups with advertising on Internet Explorer (no matter what website you're opening, it's a virus/malware doing it), and you also notice your system got really slow. Then you have a chance to open System Recovery and select a restore point in the past week. That will revert registry changes, rename/delete any executable created after that date and restore "the system" (which means how the system is configured) to the way it was on that day last week. It won't delete any new files except for executables created after that, so all your user files (documents, images, mail, etc) are safe.

You can also create your own "Restore Point" before executing a program you're not sure about. For example (not that you should), before executing a "keygen" that might (or might not) give you a troyan when you execute it. After creating the restore point, you can try the program in question, and after executing it, go to System Recovery and restore your custom Restore Point. If any changes occurred to your system (again, that means system configuration, not user files) during that time, they will be reverted.

Further more, you don't need to disable System Recovery to extend your system partition or to delete the other partition. Yes, the other partition is generally used to store restoring files, BUT, that's a completely different kind of restoration (e.g. restoring a computer to its factory state) and has nothing to do with "System Recovery" in Windows. It does not use that partition and it actually doesn't use much space for the data it stores.

HTH

Francisco

[Jux deLuxe]

Different strokes for different folks, Zarabozo. As I said, do this if its right for you. I run a computer stripped to the bone, never let it near the internet, and thus have it only for musical matters. I have need of memory, not virus protection. I forgot to mention that in my post. (I do keep an anti-virus program & cccleaner. If I'm driven to the web, I only go to secure sites I trust, like Avid. Then I make sure I'm clean, and make another clone for the next-if any-pitfall.)

Certainly for multitaskers & net hounds, they're going to need day-to-day protection. Your spirited defense of Microsoft's Restore ability is admirable, and hopefully will educate forum readers & users more about it. "Information rules the world, choices shape it." (Kissinger)

I'm not quite as Microsoft green as I was, so it's NOT FOR ME.

JUX

[Jux deLuxe]

To further illuminate the views of those who dedicate their PC to Pro Tools only, I remembered an earlier thread from this month by poster End over End
Re: ? What works for AntiVirus on your Win 7 64 Machine ? (11-13-2012)

Here the virus strategy that I use is described by a forum veteran, albee1952. This is much more detail-rich than my post. He is commenting on what virus software he constantly runs:

"What works for me is....none. I keep my Pro Tools machine off the internet. If you gotta be connected, AVG or AVAST are worth a look (and both are free). This is a case where paying more may not get you "more". Some of the expensive(as compared to free) programs are resource hogs that will hurt performance. I keep things backed up in a big way with Acronis True Image. I have drive images for my current system drive, the last setup that worked (previous version of PT), the version before that, PT9 and I probably have an image with LE8 on it somewhere. I also have a spare hard drive that is a recent clone of my working system drive(I can have a total crash, swap the drive in 5 seconds, and go back to work). About once a year, I will install AVG, update it, run it, then remove it".

Now to me that is hot dogs with chilli and hot sauce! Live a life & don't fear the reaper---I mean viruses....

JUX

[albee1952]

I'll go you one further. Its totally possible, in the event of a virus attack, that your Windows-generated recovery points can also be infected(meaning when you restore, you are restoring the virus too). Having suffered some virus attacks, I can tell you 2 ways to be certain you killed it. 1-remove the system drive and install it in a USB case. Then attach it to another, clean computer(don't let it Auto-Play) and run every tool you have(mine are avast, Malwarebytes and Spybot Search&Destroy). That has saved 2 systems out of 3 that were attacked. Option 2; reformat the drive and restore from a drive image. I keep a apir of 2GB USB drives that do nothing but imaging. 1 is just for my main PT machine and the other holds an image from every computer I own(all 6 of them) as well as an image from 2 machine I built for friends(for when they screw them up). Trust me....I'm a doctor

[Jux deLuxe]

I'm certainly not advocating running unprotected PC computers on the web, but is the virus problem all it cracks up to be? Does anybody still find hordes of viruses infiltrating their system when they go on the web? I recently had my internet computer (that I'm writing this post on) checked by one of my computer whiz grand-kids after months of use ---and it was clean. That was surprising to me.

Once, again, there is typical virus-protection on this machine...but it hasn't caught a thing (yet.) All I'm saying is it seems there's a drop-off in really malicious (seize & destroy or 'antagonize your files') type of trojan stuff you used to hear so much about. Any recent horror stories out there? Or maybe there's a lull between storms going on.

JUX