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Old 01-11-2022, 11:53 AM
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Default Studio One 5.5 update compared to Pro Tools 2021.x

Studio One 5.5
Over 30 new features and improvements
Cost: Free to version 5 owners on up to 5 computers - Pay one price $399 (or less when on sale) no subscription. Pay again only for major versions.

Pro Tools 2021.12
A dozen bug fixes
Cost: Active subscription fee or Active Perpetual License for 1 iLok (cloud or key) $34 (monthly) up to $799 yearly depending on version/plan

Hmmmmm
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Old 01-11-2022, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: Studio One 5.5 update compared to Pro Tools 2021.x

They are making it interesting to say the least.
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Old 01-11-2022, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: Studio One 5.5 update compared to Pro Tools 2021.x

I used S1 v3 and v4 for a long time before moving to Logic and PT. There are endless DAW-wars on Gearspace etc so I'll keep my opinions short, and they're just that - opinions.

I had problems with:

1) Midi timing - record something and then play it back, just didn't sound right. No idea what was going wrong but no obvious solution.
2) sudden full-scale noise - as reported on a big thread on the forum - not good when I have 1.2kW of monitoring.
3) Forum is "community support" staffed by enthusiasts and people who won't hear a word said against the product, along with some dullards who always have the same solution for everything
4) developers are rude when they turn up on the forum and are focussed on new features rather than bug fixes

Good stuff:

1) Great UI. Slick, intuitive and fully drag and drop. If you don't mind the blue on blue scheme, it's really easy on the eye and the metering is good.
2) Lots of features.
3) Good value.

Other stuff:

1) Notion is a separate product for score editing and is horrendous.
2) Stock plugins behave differently with some major (and some minor) releases, so really hard to know if a mix saved today will work the same in the future.
3) Saved mix files will usually only open with the same or later versions of the product.

Things I like about PT in comparison.
1) Great music score (looks nice and sensible when converting midi to score). Better than Logic too IMHO.
2) Saved files work with multiple versions (forward and backward compatibility)
3) Forum has lots of professional users and pragmatic opinions. Plenty of die-hard PT users but not blind to shortfalls
4) Devs and product specialists from Avid are polite and constructive when they turn up.
5) PT metering is great. UI is clear, sensible and usable.
6) Loads of support for "stuff". Video, control surfaces, post, Atmos, the list is long.

Dominic
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Old 01-11-2022, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: Studio One 5.5 update compared to Pro Tools 2021.x

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... Things I like about PT ... UI is clear, sensible and usable.
6) Loads of support for "stuff". Video, control surfaces, post, Atmos, the list is long...
I'm using regular Pro Tools/Windows 10/Intel 11th gen/buffer 64. Stable.
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Old 01-12-2022, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: Studio One 5.5 update compared to Pro Tools 2021.x

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I used S1 v3 and v4 for a long time before moving to Logic and PT. There are endless DAW-wars on Gearspace etc so I'll keep my opinions short, and they're just that - opinions.

I had problems with:

1) Midi timing - record something and then play it back, just didn't sound right. No idea what was going wrong but no obvious solution.
2) sudden full-scale noise - as reported on a big thread on the forum - not good when I have 1.2kW of monitoring.
3) Forum is "community support" staffed by enthusiasts and people who won't hear a word said against the product, along with some dullards who always have the same solution for everything
4) developers are rude when they turn up on the forum and are focussed on new features rather than bug fixes

Good stuff:

1) Great UI. Slick, intuitive and fully drag and drop. If you don't mind the blue on blue scheme, it's really easy on the eye and the metering is good.
2) Lots of features.
3) Good value.

Other stuff:

1) Notion is a separate product for score editing and is horrendous.
2) Stock plugins behave differently with some major (and some minor) releases, so really hard to know if a mix saved today will work the same in the future.
3) Saved mix files will usually only open with the same or later versions of the product.

Things I like about PT in comparison.
1) Great music score (looks nice and sensible when converting midi to score). Better than Logic too IMHO.
2) Saved files work with multiple versions (forward and backward compatibility)
3) Forum has lots of professional users and pragmatic opinions. Plenty of die-hard PT users but not blind to shortfalls
4) Devs and product specialists from Avid are polite and constructive when they turn up.
5) PT metering is great. UI is clear, sensible and usable.
6) Loads of support for "stuff". Video, control surfaces, post, Atmos, the list is long.

Dominic
A lot has changed since Version 4, its a very compelling DAW at this point, especially after the last update a few days ago where they finally added some much needed missing features. I bought it, and plan to put it through its paces over the next month.
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Old 01-12-2022, 10:50 AM
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A lot has changed since Version 4, its a very compelling DAW at this point, especially after the last update a few days ago where they finally added some much needed missing features. I bought it, and plan to put it through its paces over the next month.
I tried the version 5 demo and I've kept in touch with updates.
Still no video engine, for example. Still no inbuilt score editor.
Will be interested to hear what your experience is, and also whether they've fixed the full scale noise issue, which has certainly persisted in various versions of 5.x - the latest notes claim a fix to "666 errors" associated with certain event boundaries, so if that is the problem fixed I will be very pleased.

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Old 01-12-2022, 01:38 PM
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I tried the version 5 demo and I've kept in touch with updates.
Still no video engine, for example. Still no inbuilt score editor.
Will be interested to hear what your experience is, and also whether they've fixed the full scale noise issue, which has certainly persisted in various versions of 5.x - the latest notes claim a fix to "666 errors" associated with certain event boundaries, so if that is the problem fixed I will be very pleased.

Dominic
I will let you know if I run into that noise. Yea, if a person wants to work with Video, then either Nuendo or Protools ultimate is really the only viable answer. As to scoring, I can't speak to that, outside of my wheelhouse....
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Old 01-12-2022, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: Studio One 5.5 update compared to Pro Tools 2021.x

Yeah, I bought it second hand on the cheap six months ago..
Have been holding off moving over for some reason..

Avid would just depress you at times..
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Old 01-12-2022, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: Studio One 5.5 update compared to Pro Tools 2021.x

I enjoy both Pro Tools Standard 2021.12 and Studio One Professional 5.5.0 for my limited DAW uses and needs. That being said, much of the enjoyment is due to the hardware, plugins and room I use, which is quite indifferent to which DAW I am using.
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Old 01-12-2022, 06:19 PM
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I enjoy both Pro Tools Standard 2021.12 and Studio One Professional 5.5.0 for my limited DAW uses and needs. That being said, much of the enjoyment is due to the hardware, plugins and room I use, which is quite indifferent to which DAW I am using.
I use them both as well. Compose in S1, mix in PT. Much like I did years ago when it was compose in Logic, mix in PT. Just about anything handles VI's better (and more of them) than PT for me. It only takes a couple of instances of Omnisphere to bring PT to its knees. YMMV, of course.

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