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Old 10-03-2011, 10:55 AM
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Default Compression on Master for tv series

Hi everyone.
What do you use on Master for compression and limiting on tv series.

Is it important that my L2 (for example) is reducing something and hitting -3dB? Is that good for the audio?
Besides that, do you use a compressor before L2?

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Old 10-03-2011, 01:03 PM
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Hi everyone.
What do you use on Master for compression and limiting on tv series.

Is it important that my L2 (for example) is reducing something and hitting -3dB? Is that good for the audio?
Besides that, do you use a compressor before L2?

Thanks a lot,
Zzstation
L2 on the stem busses. No compressor.
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Old 10-03-2011, 05:05 PM
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Almost never compress the master or stems. Mostly just safety limiters to keep in spec.
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Old 10-04-2011, 12:12 AM
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For most TV, if not all, it's usually -10 with peaks at -8. But check with the networks delivery specs.
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Old 10-04-2011, 10:31 AM
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For most TV, if not all, it's usually -10 with peaks at -8. But check with the networks delivery specs.
Not true. In the analog days, yes, but they varied. With Digital now, I can peak at -2.
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:33 AM
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Default Re: Compression on Master for tv series

Hi guys,
thanks for sharing your ideas.
Actually, I'm aware of Loudness Meters.
I was just wondering if audio post engineers use some kind of master compression as the music engineers does after the mix. Something to make the mix sounds better on air.
And another doubt that I have is: what is the maximum attenuation that is ok when limiting the final mix to tv? -4dB, -6dB, -9dB?

Thanks again
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:03 AM
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Hi guys,
thanks for sharing your ideas.
Actually, I'm aware of Loudness Meters.
I was just wondering if audio post engineers use some kind of master compression as the music engineers does after the mix. Something to make the mix sounds better on air.
And another doubt that I have is: what is the maximum attenuation that is ok when limiting the final mix to tv? -4dB, -6dB, -9dB?

Thanks again
zzstation
You don't want to attenuate. Just limit the peaks from going over the delivery spec.

L2 works perfectly for that.

Just put it on your stem bus, set it and just be aware of how hot you are pushing it, if your limit is lower.
Like if you had a spec of -6 peak, don't push your mix to the point where it is squared off by the limiter.

Turn up the volume of your room to match closely to what it would be with out a limit of your peaks.
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:36 PM
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I was just wondering if audio post engineers use some kind of master compression as the music engineers does after the mix. Something to make the mix sounds better on air.

zzstation
No, we don't.
In fact, the best itt ever sounds, is on the dubstage.
It's downhill from there.
So, if you're expecting magic to happen after the mix, it won't.
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Old 10-06-2011, 06:21 PM
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No, we don't.
In fact, the best itt ever sounds, is on the dubstage.
It's downhill from there.
So, if you're expecting magic to happen after the mix, it won't.
Well said. I don't even listen to it through the TV anymore. The clients don't want to either.

We listen to a 2 track near fields and that is it. If you were to mix to every broadcast, TV type ect, you'd still be mixing after it broadcast.

Hey Mark. You still on Nuendo or did you move to to PT completey?

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