Cabinet Frequency Response/Eleven Rack window in Pro Tools

[LW4EVER123]

Hi everyone,

first thanks for letting me join the forum.

I used the search option to look for similar posts but I could not find any. Furthermore I did not find anything about this on Google.
And I am German so please forgive my faults regarding grammar.


1.
I always thought that the guitar sound coming out off the Eleven Rack sounded a bit muffled. I am relatively new to creating my own guitar tones. So I thought I just had not figured out how to produce a rich yet brilliant tone.

Today I pushed the treble and presence to the top to experiment with the sound. When I looked at a frequency analyzer inside of Pro Tools I noticed that above 10kHz everything was pretty much cut off. When I bypassed the cabinet I got the missing 10-20kHz but with a terrible guitar tone.

Can you tell me if that is normal with cabinets? Or is there maybe a problem with my Eleven Rack hardware?
If this is common can you suggest a work around to this? Would you boost every guitar recording?
I use a Gibson Les Paul Studio 2015 with rather long used strings. Could that be a problem?


2.
Since I updated Pro Tools to 12.5.0 my Eleven Rack window disappeared. It is also not available if I look in the windows tab. Did that happen to you as well? I already reinstalled the driver as the Editor but nothing changed. If I reinstalled Pro Tools would I lose any data or is everything saved in the "Pro Tools Sessions" folder?


It would be awesome if you could help me with this!

[albee1952]

Indeed, the average guitar cabinet has very little going on above 8-10KHz. Take a look at these plots
https://www.google.com/search?q=freq...9Eu-h3grR7M%3A

[LW4EVER123]

Thanks for the quick answer!
So are electric guitars with more high end uncommon?
I am trying to make a guitar part fit in in a pretty electric driven mix. The guitar sounds dull in comparison to the other instruments. Would you use an exciter or something similar in this case?

[albee1952]

No exciter for me. I would work on getting it right on the way in. If that still needs some top end help, I reach for a Pultec EQ. Even the lowly Bomb Factory Pultec EQ1-A is a very useful tool(seen it on the used market for $50) or maybe MAAG EQ4

[LW4EVER123]

Ok, I will try to get the signal as close as I can on the way in. And thanks for the plugin suggestions! (I hope you meant the plugins since the hardware costs a fortune)