Writing automation at 2x speed

[Goombot]

Is there any way to write automation while ProTools is playing back at faster than normal speed? It doesn’t seem so but is there any other way to do this? I’m looking to use WaveRider or Vocal rider on a long piece of dialogue and I’m wondering if there is any way to speed this up. Elastic audio doesn’t seem to work, switching sample rates doesn’t work, there is no audio suite for that type of thing. Any third party programs or anything?

[JFreak]

I am amazed that someone even came up with this idea (of writing automation non-realtime), but if it is otherwise not possible you can bounce your track as original sampling rate (say, 48k) and then create a new session in double sampling rate (in this example 96k) then importing the track without SRC so it plays back in double speed.

[danyg]

do you know that you can transfer the volume automation from Vocal Rider to an automation lane of your DAW and quickly edit it there with the mouse?

[Sardi]

Originally Posted by Goombot

Is there any way to write automation while ProTools is playing back at faster than normal speed? It doesn’t seem so but is there any other way to do this? I’m looking to use WaveRider or Vocal rider on a long piece of dialogue and I’m wondering if there is any way to speed this up. Elastic audio doesn’t seem to work, switching sample rates doesn’t work, there is no audio suite for that type of thing. Any third party programs or anything?

You could try Waverider TG.

It has an AAX and Audiosuite version so you can process the levelling offline. Very fast.


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[Goombot]

Right. I have the main version of WaveRider. I didn't know the TG version was an AudioSuite. Still not ideal. Ideally it would be great to process a volume automation lane in non real time but I guess there really isn't anything that will do that.

[midnightrambler]

I'd use Elastic - set it to ticks, double the tempo, write away, put the tempo back when finished. Don't see why that wouldn't work? Unless the plugins can't cope with the double speed for whatever reason. Would the "Melodyne" trick work, where you put the "Rider" plugin into "write" and then commit the track and then undo? Can't vouch as I've never tried with any other plugin other than Melodyne.

[Goombot]

That doesn’t work. Automation doesn’t follow elastic audio.

[midnightrambler]

Originally Posted by Goombot

That doesn’t work. Automation doesn’t follow elastic audio.

Of course it does. It would pretty useless if it didn't.

Edit : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFp1ne8blG4

This is a quick vid where the automation is following the elastic exactly. Apologies if I'm misunderstanding.

[daeron80]

This is not the answer you're looking for, I know that, but... iZotope's RX Leveler module does much the same thing at max processor speed. Hour-long messages in seconds.

[Goombot]

Originally Posted by danyg

do you know that you can transfer the volume automation from Vocal Rider to an automation lane of your DAW and quickly edit it there with the mouse?

Yes I understand but you still need to write the automation in real time.