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Old 01-17-2010, 12:14 PM
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Here's 2 things I think Digi should implement which would make things a lot easier:

1. Option for a single PAN knob on stereo tracks.

2. When when option/dragging insert fx, PT should be smart enough to copy the same settings to mono and stereo tracks and not give that annoying error.

Can anyone else relate to these issues?
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Old 01-17-2010, 12:25 PM
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Option for a single PAN knob on stereo tracks
How would it have to pan it then? If you move that single pan knob to -15, what would it mean? Left to -100 and right to +85, or both to -15, or left to -50 and right to +35.....

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Old 01-17-2010, 01:23 PM
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How would it have to pan it then? If you move that single pan knob to -15, what would it mean? Left to -100 and right to +85, or both to -15, or left to -50 and right to +35.....

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Single pan knob wouldn't need numbers. You pan left and more of the signal is in the left channel and less is in the right. You pan right and more of the signal is in the right and less in the left. Simple. Pan is relative anyway. Every other daw on the marekt has a single pan knob on stereo tracks - why should PT be any different?
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Old 01-17-2010, 02:43 PM
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Single pan knob wouldn't need numbers. You pan left and more of the signal is in the left channel and less is in the right. You pan right and more of the signal is in the right and less in the left. Simple. Pan is relative anyway. Every other daw on the marekt has a single pan knob on stereo tracks - why should PT be any different?
The stereo tracks on Logic have a balance control, not a pan control.

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PS Personally I think 2 pan controls are waaaaaaay more useful than one balance control.
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Old 01-17-2010, 03:22 PM
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The stereo tracks on Logic have a balance control, not a pan control.

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PS Personally I think 2 pan controls are waaaaaaay more useful than one balance control.
Semantics (pan/balance). What we're asking for is having the OPTION of a single control, not taking away the dual controls PT has.
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Old 01-17-2010, 10:55 PM
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Semantics (pan/balance). What we're asking for is having the OPTION of a single control, not taking away the dual controls PT has.
Are you requesting this to make it easier to pan a stereo track with automation and etc? If so, I would think twice about panning stereo tracks this way. You get so much more flexibility by having two panning knobs.

Plus, some DAW's (such as Logic) pan in weird ways with one knob by just turning up or down the left or right channel which is rarely the way you would want to do it. Doing it this way will completely change the balance of any stereo signal such as piano where you have the lower strings panned left and the higher strings panned right.

I would much rather a plug-in give that option instead of it being standard on every track. Trust me. Stereo panning with one nob is generally not the way you should pan something.
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Semantics (pan/balance). What we're asking for is having the OPTION of a single control, not taking away the dual controls PT has.
You may think that. But if you're changing the balance of a stereo track, at no point are you ever changing the pan position. A piano hard left with a violin hard right will always stay in their same positions, all you can do with a balance is change their relative level, not their panning position. This is just one of a bazillion reasons why Apple should insert the word "semi" between the words "Logic" and "pro".
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Single pan knob wouldn't need numbers. You pan left and more of the signal is in the left channel and less is in the right. You pan right and more of the signal is in the right and less in the left. Simple. Pan is relative anyway. Every other daw on the marekt has a single pan knob on stereo tracks - why should PT be any different?
Well, while you can pan a stereo track with ONE pan pot it will never yield the same precision as one has with two separate mono tracks. Or with a Pro Tools style stereo track.

With PT style you basically have two mono tracks ganged into one.

I dont feel like explaining what PAN is or how it works. But if you think you can achieve precision stereo panning with one pan pot I think you should read up on how it works.
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1. Option for a single PAN knob on stereo tracks.
How would you position your track in the stereo field without separate control of L R channels?

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when option/dragging insert fx, PT should be smart enough to copy the same settings to mono and stereo tracks and not give that annoying error
Works one way but not the other. There's a reason. PT can't guess what isn't 100% foolproof (which also answers to your #1 come to think of it...)
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